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Josh Gates · · Wilmington, DE · Joined Mar 2017 · Points: 5

Does anybody know a source that might be able to do stitching like on the Petzl Connect Adjust?


I want a two-armed connect adjust, where both arms are adjustable. I have a connect and a dual connect, so I have the hardware for each arm. I just need a length of rope (easy) and somebody to sew the end terminators and the loop in the middle. I'm not 100% what the kind of stitch is called, even. If I knew that, it'd be easier to google for.

Thanks,
jg
Caleb Schwarz · · Colorado Springs, CO · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 120

Tie a knot?

Chase G · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 169

So you want a petzl evolv adjust?

Roots · · Wherever I am · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 20

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Malcolm Daly · · Hailey, ID · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 380

That’s a super specific type of stitcher and I doubt that any of the regular places can handle it. Might try RunnoutCustoms.com because he like to do custom stuff. My guess that you’ll spend at least as much to do a custom job as you would as you would just buying a new Petzl Evolv Adjust. 

Josh Gates · · Wilmington, DE · Joined Mar 2017 · Points: 5
Chase G wrote: So you want a petzl evolv adjust?

Yes! It is on their website in Packs/Accessories, instead of lanyards, where the connect and connect adjust and their via ferrata lanyards are. Thanks for the name!

Josh Gates · · Wilmington, DE · Joined Mar 2017 · Points: 5
Caleb Schwarz wrote: Tie a knot?

Not a bad idea, actually - overhand on a bight for the loop, double fishers on the arm ends should do it. No stitching needed.

Harumpfster Boondoggle · · Between yesterday and today. · Joined Apr 2018 · Points: 148
Josh Gates wrote:

Not a bad idea, actually - overhand on a bight for the loop, double fishers on the arm ends should do it. No stitching needed.

crazy talk.

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,516

The Speedy Stitcher is what you seek.

Behold​​​

Josh Gates · · Wilmington, DE · Joined Mar 2017 · Points: 5
Josh Gates wrote:

Yes! It is on their website in Packs/Accessories, instead of lanyards, where the connect and connect adjust and their via ferrata lanyards are. Thanks for the name!

Even better - I wrote Petzl support asking for what is apparently already a product of theirs, but they said: "sorry, we can't make you a custom thing right now, but we'll pass design idea on to our designers in France." Guess that the evolv is quite the secret!

Josh Gates · · Wilmington, DE · Joined Mar 2017 · Points: 5
Tim Stich wrote: The Speedy Stitcher is what you seek.

Behold

Neat - thanks! What kind of thread is appropriate?

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,516
Josh Gates wrote:

Neat - thanks! What kind of thread is appropriate?

They sell it with the tool. It's waxed nylon. You can actually hand sew climbing harnesses and other gear, it's that strong. 

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,516

Whatever needle comes with your awl, you can dull it with some sandpaper if it's a concern.

Roots · · Wherever I am · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 20
Tim Stich wrote: The Speedy Stitcher is what you seek.

Behold

TS - you're showing your age (aka wisdom)! LOL remember when these were part of everyone's kit? It's been so long since I have had one I forgot they existed. Thanks!

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,516

I found out about these from cavers. They sold them at REI. I've made foot loops, chest harnesses, and repaired pack buckles with them. 

Mark Berenblum · · Gardiner, NY · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 105

I believe the stitch you show is called a round stitch. Here's an article with some more context, but if you look up testing of sewed vs. spliced eyes, you should turn up quite a bit more.

https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/37_46/features/Stitching-Instead-of-Splicing_11521-1.html

But yeah, a knot seems like the simplest solution. For extra security, you can stitch the tail to ensure it doesn't slip (the stitch would then be non-weight-bearing and wouldn't require any special engineering).

Josh Gates · · Wilmington, DE · Joined Mar 2017 · Points: 5

Works great - solid and easy to make. I'm calling it the Shmetzl Shmevolve. Patent pending.

Aidan Raviv · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 95

PSA tho: the Evolve Adjust isn't rated the same as the connect/dual connect. I think it's only rated for aid and not as a lanyard. YMMV/YGD etc.

Stihl Born · · Ohio · Joined Feb 2018 · Points: 0
Josh Gates wrote: Does anybody know a source that might be able to do stitching like on the Petzl Connect Adjust?

Richard at Climbing Innovations (an arborist supplier). $15 per sewn termination / sewn eye (so that'd be $45 + return shipping). It's the only place I've ever found who will sew things you didn't buy from them. 

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