3 Season Mountaineering Boots - Searching For A Wide Toe Box

I am looking for help finding a 3-season mountaineering boot with a hybrid crampon compatible, semi-flexible (B2) sole, which fits my foot.  My toes splay out relatively wide, creating a pressure point at the pinkie toe on the most commonly available models.

I have tried both the La Sportiva Trango and Scarpa Ribelle boots and found that they both pinch my pinkie toe.  Unfortunately, It is hard to find other models, like the Mammut Taiss Light, to try on.

For reference, Nepal Evos and Baturas are a bit more narrow than I would prefer, but bearable.  The TX3/TX4 fits my foot perfectly in a size 43.

Update:  I was able to try on several of the models models recommended in this thread.

The Charmoz felt very similar to the Ribelle Tech and (same pressure point on the pinky toe). 
The Salewa boots all seem to have pretty much the same fit.  Wide enough forefoot, but the toe box is too narrow.
So far, the Zodiac Tech seems to have the widest toe box of all the 3-season boots that I have tested.  I would describe the fit as tolerable, but not comfortable, straight out of the box.

Have you tried any of Scarpa's other boots like the Zodiac Tech or Charmoz?  Typically Scarpa boots fit for people with wider feet.  I feel like my Zodiac Tech boots have a wider toe box than my Nepal Evos, but I haven't tried on the Ribelle so I can't compare that one.  

I have North Face Verto S4K goretex Boots....B2, widish fit   Light and nimble, good for rock climbing., takes hinged crampons OK.
Not very warm but then you're not using it in winter. Light so not too sure of long term durability.

Scarpa Charmoz seem like the likely candidate that would be easiest to try on.   I have a 10E foot and can get either a 43.5 or 44 to work for me.

Scarpa Charmoz

TX3's and TX4's are built quite a bit wider than most La Sportiva's are, they're actually almost too wide for my foot and I normally wear a Nepal Evo boot.

I would second the Scarpa Chamoz suggestion above ^, they are definitely wider and are pretty much Scarpa's equivalent of the Trango series.

I have the same issues as you and until they came out with tx3 and tx4's I always just used sneakers for approach because everything else killed my toes.  After years my pinky toe has a on/off again pressure sore from running or just general everyday wear with any wide shoe.  As far as a winter mountaineering boot the g2sm fit my toe box well. Much better than my evos.
good luck

Salewa Rapace work great for wide feet.

Same problem, I tried the Charmoz, still too narrow.

I see this is an old thread but I'll mention that I started using the Mammut Taiss Light GTX this summer and they have a nice roomy toe box, are VERY light and have withstood some beatings. 

For what it is worth, I ended up opting for the TX4 mid GTX approach boots.  They have the same flex as the TX4 approach shoes, which is to say too soft for front pointing with crampons and edging on small features.

It's good to know that the Taiss might be an option.  

Karl Henize wrote:

For what it is worth, I ended up opting for the TX4 mid GTX approach boots.  They have the same flex has the TX4 approach shoes, which is to say too soft for front pointing with crampons and edging on small features.

It's good to know that the Taiss might be an option.  

Hey Karl- 

Did you find a big difference in the toe box between the TX4/GTX and the Scarpa Zodiac? 

I seem to have the exact same fit issues as you.. I’ve got a pair of Zodiacs in a 46.5 that is feeling like it might work.. but with a thinker sock I’m getting that left pinky toe pressure a little..  I’m in wide toe box minimalist shoes exclusively at all other times.. (Xeros) 

in theory the Zodiac is right where I want to be performance wise- just nervous about getting out there and it feeling too narrow. I’m still able to return them.. so walking around the house trying to decide 

(Was glad to see this thread was revived- I’ve found it many times in the past couple of years) 

I have new pairs of Salewa Rapaces and Ravens that have awfully tight toes (my first pair of Rapaces in 8.5 fit like a dream) so go figure. I tried a pair of mammut kento pro in 9.5 and they seemed to fit much better

Quinn Hatfield wrote:

Hey Karl- 

Did you find a big difference in the toe box between the TX4/GTX and the Scarpa Zodiac? 

I seem to have the exact same fit issues as you.. I’ve got a pair of Zodiacs in a 46.5 that is feeling like it might work.. but with a thinker sock I’m getting that left pinky toe pressure a little..  I’m in wide toe box minimalist shoes exclusively at all other times.. (Xeros) 

in theory the Zodiac is right where I want to be performance wise- just nervous about getting out there and it feeling too narrow. I’m still able to return them.. so walking around the house trying to decide 

(Was glad to see this thread was revived- I’ve found it many times in the past couple of years) 

For my foot, the difference is substantial.  Zodiac has pressure point on my pinky toe.  The TX4 has no pressure points.  If the Zodiac doesn’t fit well out of the box, I would check out the Mammut Taiss.

For reference, my casual and road running shoes are vibram five fingers and my trail running shoes are Altras.  

Karl Henize wrote:

For my foot, the difference is substantial.  Zodiac has pressure point on my pinky toe.  The TX4 has no pressure points.  If the Zodiac doesn’t fit well out of the box, I would check out the Mammut Taiss.

For reference, my casual and road running shoes are vibram five fingers and my trail running shoes are Altras.  

Thank you! The Zodiac is damn close.. I’m going keep it a while and see how it is.. I often rush to judgement.. I might try the Taiss too if I can order it and return.. 

VFF Bro’s! I do all my trail running in Huaraches.. and VFF on road and track.. I’ve got a pair Altra Lone Peak that I want so badly to love- the shape is perfection! But I’m so adapted to minimal underfoot that the squishy sole of the Altra really throws me off.. (I did climb mt Russel in Graftons- pretty good approach shoe) 

The Xero Daylight Hiker is a decent lightweight hiking boot- I took a pair out of the box and climbed Whitney- perfect! Except I lost that pinky toenail! They softened up a bit and bother me less now.. but not as wide as I’d like 

Try Lowa

I had the same issues recently and after a long process of trying returning a few different pairs of boots I went with the Ferrata II GTX from Hanwag. I don't necessarily have wide feet but I have tailor's bunions on the pinky joint of both feet that flare up and are quite painful. 

I pretty much wore the Ferratas out of the box for a 12-hour day on the Grossglockner in Austria and had no hotspots or issues with my bunions, even though they were sensitive at the time. They are a solid B2 boot despite the Ferrata name and are based off of Hanwag's Alpine Wide last, which is a bit wider than most "technical" boots. I bought the boots in Austria though I think they are available in the U.S, the company is quite popular in Europe/UK. 

For reference, I tried both the Charmoz and the Ribelle HD and both were too tight in the pinky area. I own TX3s and they fit comfortably, Lowa's have fit me in the past as well and I hear Mammut boots are wider as well. If you are able to, try as many different companies as you can.

Just found this post and I’m thinking of Lowa for the same reason as Karl.  TX3 and 4 are perfect in 42.5.  I’m looking for Lowa Alpine expert boots.  Does anyone have any experience with them?