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Daniel Melnyk
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Mar 6, 2019
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Covina
· Joined Jan 2017
· Points: 50
I know they’re light, but how warm is it? Thinking for summer alpine climbing. Likes, dislikes?
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Will Bland
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Mar 6, 2019
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Halifax, NS
· Joined Jun 2017
· Points: 490
I'd like to know how it compares to the Cerium LT in regards to warmth + durability + fit.
I hate the cerium.
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Miss Cat
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Mar 6, 2019
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Hell
· Joined Apr 2017
· Points: 1,607
Super light, but really prone to tearing/pinholes. Mine is covered in patches, which fits the climber aesthetic, but it doesn’t have as much fill now... At freezing I usually just wear a base layer underneath and I’m plenty warm.
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Michael Brady
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Mar 6, 2019
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Wenatchee, WA
· Joined Jul 2014
· Points: 1,392
The zipper is weak AF!
I have been through.....I think 3 of them. All covered under warranty and after the second or third they put a more beefy zipper on it for me.
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Miss Cat
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Mar 6, 2019
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Hell
· Joined Apr 2017
· Points: 1,607
Mike Brady wrote: The zipper is weak AF!
I have been through.....I think 3 of them. All covered under warranty and after the second or third they put a more beefy zipper on it for me. THIS. I hope I get a beefy zipper this time! Currently it’s duct tape.
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Zack Robinson
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Mar 6, 2019
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2018
· Points: 0
I would be surprised if the GH is as warm as the Cerium. Arc'teryx plays their fill weights close to the vest, but having handled both jacks a decent amount, I think the Cerium has a good amount more loft.
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Michael Atlas
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Mar 6, 2019
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Charlotte, NC
· Joined Apr 2014
· Points: 85
Second the comment about easy rips
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Caleb Schwarz
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Mar 6, 2019
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Colorado Springs, CO
· Joined Mar 2016
· Points: 120
Will Bland wrote: I'd like to know how it compares to the Cerium LT in regards to warmth + durability + fit.
I hate the cerium. The Cerium is much warmer and more durable. The dead Bird has a 10x20denier fabric and the MH has a 7x10 denier. Cerium LT: 3.35oz of 850 fill down, and that's not even including a large amount of synthetic insulation in the cuffs and shoulders for moisture management. Ghost Whisperer: 2.79oz of 800 fill down. What made you hate the Cerium?
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Will Bland
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Mar 6, 2019
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Halifax, NS
· Joined Jun 2017
· Points: 490
Caleb Schwarz wrote: The Cerium is much warmer and more durable. The dead Bird has a 10x20denier fabric and the MH has a 7x10 denier. Cerium LT: 3.35oz of 850 fill down, and that's not even including a large amount of synthetic insulation in the cuffs and shoulders for moisture management. Ghost Whisperer: 2.79oz of 800 fill down.
What made you hate the Cerium?
I actually think it was your cerium I bought! Small world haha. I didn't like the fit It wasn't as warm as I would have liked, Pin holed / ripped easily. But, I think I mostly didn't like it because I wasn't that knowledgeable at the time as to what the jacket is made for, so its not really the jackets fault, I was just looking for something beefier, more belay jacket style, and now have a RAB neutrino endurance that I love.
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Caleb Schwarz
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Mar 6, 2019
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Colorado Springs, CO
· Joined Mar 2016
· Points: 120
Will Bland wrote: I actually think it was your cerium I bought! Small world haha. I didn't like the fit It wasn't as warm as I would have liked, Pin holed / ripped easily.
But, I think I mostly didn't like it because I wasn't that knowledgeable at the time as to what the jacket is made for, so its not really the jackets fault, I was just looking for something beefier, more belay jacket style, and now have a RAB neutrino endurance that I love. Haha that's awesome! I had a neutrino endurance and it was incredible. Shouldn't have sold it lol but something else caught my eye
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Ryan O
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Mar 6, 2019
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Portland, OR
· Joined Nov 2007
· Points: 56
Super light, medium warmth, very delicate, worthless when damp. Great as a super light weight midlayer under a minimal shell like Patagonia houdini or Arc’teryx squamish on fast multipitch routes or ski touring with no risk for an emergency bivy. I’ve owned and used one for the last 4 years, bought on impulse, would return if I could at this point but keep using it for multipitch climbs because it works if I’m careful.
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Zack Robinson
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Mar 7, 2019
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2018
· Points: 0
Have you considered one of the new types of active synthetics like the North Face Ventrix or Patagonia Nano Air? For a midweight insulation piece for summer alpine climbing, a synthetic seems much more appropriate. If you are actually looking for a belay jacket, that's another story.
I have the Ventrix and love it, btw.
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Andrew Williams
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Mar 7, 2019
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Concord, NH
· Joined Mar 2014
· Points: 625
I got one this year, and I am surprised at how warm it is. I don’t wear it out climbing as a stand-alone, always under a shell, but it works really well, especially for the weight, or lack of weight really.
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mbk
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Mar 7, 2019
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jul 2013
· Points: 0
I don't totally regret my GW purchase, but only because it was ~70% off.
Some additional cons:
* fit isn't great for mesomorphs like me * plastic bag feel
I don't have many activity days where weight/space are at such a premium where the lack of durability is justified. Most cool days I wear my OR Ascendant instead (or R1 + Houdini + AtomLT, if there is going to be a lot of wind or standing in the shade).
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Dingo Gwerdwad
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Mar 7, 2019
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Denver, CO
· Joined Jul 2016
· Points: 20
Its warm small and packable, til the zipper blew out on me after less than a year of use. Their warranty rules tho, they sent me a e gift card for the full retail price within a week of shipping it to them. Got some discount last season gear with the $$$. They make warmer, more durable jackets. I think the weight isn't worth talking about if its going to rip to shreds on the mountain....
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