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Ed Reynolds
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Feb 13, 2019
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Twin Falls, ID
· Joined Feb 2019
· Points: 0
I just purchased my first harness online after looking at a few options and not realizing there were several different styles of harness other than seat, chest, and fullbody.
Upon receiving my Headwall Universal harness and figuring out which straps went where I've discovered I don't seem to have any tie-in loops, and only have a single belay loop. The website lists their harness as being versatile but I can't even find information on how one is suppose to tie a rope to the harness.
Is this harness not usable for gym climbing?? And if it is, am I suppose to just put my figure 8 knot through the belay loop??
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bernard wolfe
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Feb 13, 2019
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birmingham, al
· Joined Jan 2007
· Points: 300
consider contacting the manufacturer instead of hoping for some anecdotal advice from this forum
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Jeremy Bauman
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Feb 13, 2019
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Lakewood, CO
· Joined Feb 2009
· Points: 1,047
A quick google search makes it look like your harness has a single horizontal tie-in/belay loop. It is common for manufacturers to recommend tieing and belaying off the same point on this style harness. If you have questions, look at the manufacturer recommendations or take it to your gym/climbing community and have someone show/teach you.
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RockinOut
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Feb 13, 2019
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NY, NY
· Joined May 2010
· Points: 100
Ed Reynolds wrote: I just purchased my first harness online after looking at a few options and not realizing there were several different styles of harness other than seat, chest, and fullbody.
Upon receiving my Headwall Universal harness and figuring out which straps went where I've discovered I don't seem to have any tie-in loops, and only have a single belay loop. The website lists their harness as being versatile but I can't even find information on how one is suppose to tie a rope to the harness.
Is this harness not usable for gym climbing?? And if it is, am I suppose to just put my figure 8 knot through the belay loop?? From the looks of it yes. it looks like a rental harness, which only have 1 tie in point.
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Ed Reynolds
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Feb 13, 2019
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Twin Falls, ID
· Joined Feb 2019
· Points: 0
bernard wolfe wrote: consider contacting the manufacturer instead of hoping for some anecdotal advice from this forum I tried that, but it seems their phones are down. It's a small shop manufacturer. @Jeremy Bauman - Thank you for the information. I still can't seem to find any other information on similar harnesses, so asking the gym it is.
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FrankPS
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Feb 13, 2019
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Atascadero, CA
· Joined Nov 2009
· Points: 276
Ed,
Have you climbed before? I recommend you get with an experienced climber before you purchase gear. Or, go to a local gear shop and ask for help. That way, you can ask questions and get recommendations.
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Igor Chained
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Feb 13, 2019
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jul 2016
· Points: 110
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mark felber
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Feb 13, 2019
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Wheat Ridge, CO
· Joined Jul 2005
· Points: 41
The harness you bought appears to be designed for ropes courses. So, no real belay loop, just a tie in loop that's high enough to keep the most top heavy ropes course user from inverting and dropping out of their harness. It's probably fine for gym climbing, but the final decision would be for the gym owner/management to make.
Any decent climbing shop will have a rope with a locking carabiner attached hanging from the ceiling that you can use to test the fit of the harnesses they sell. For about $60 you can buy a decent harness that is meant for climbing, and probably a good bit more comfortable and easier to use then the one you got.Further up the price ladder you could have found even more comfortable harnesses, or harnesses with better gear racking options, or harnesses that are more comfortable on long climbs with hanging belays, etc.
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Robert S
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Feb 13, 2019
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Driftwood, TX
· Joined Sep 2018
· Points: 661
Sounds like your standard gym/group harness to me.
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Grandpa Dave
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Feb 17, 2019
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Aug 2016
· Points: 5
Ed Reynolds wrote: Is this harness not usable for gym climbing?? And if it is, am I suppose to just put my figure 8 knot through the belay loop?? It is quite usable, and is quite common for gym and alpine climbing/hiking. Single tie in point is just that. The single point at which a belay device is attached, or the rope is tied to the harness. Perhaps compare to the Black Diamond "Vario Speed". And, at first glance, it looks like a good harness at a good price - score!
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