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Opinions on Kong Slyde Adjustable Sling?

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Dave Hug · · Carbondale, IL · Joined Oct 2013 · Points: 12,225
I am wanting to update my Personal Anchoring System and was thinking about this, has anyone had any experience using one?
eli poss · · Durango, CO · Joined May 2014 · Points: 525

I have one and like it a lot. There's more good info on these 2 threads:

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/112316418/kong-slyde-as-an-alternative-to-the-petzl-connect-adjust?page=2

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/113878847/kong-slyde?page=2 

The only thing that could make it better IMO would be the ability to lengthen it under weight, but it seems all adjustable daisies/tethers seem to have this same issue. 

Harumpfster Boondoggle · · Between yesterday and today. · Joined Apr 2018 · Points: 148
Dave Hug wrote:
I am wanting to update my Personal Anchoring System and was thinking about this, has anyone had any experience using one?

It works, but my caveat is it doesn't store on the harness very compactly like a traditional Daisy that goes pretty small by clipping the loops into a ball. 

It slides pretty well with a little un-weighting of it and is much nicer than a regular daisy in use, just not when its not. Its also not as good for jugging because it slips and adjusts its length a bit when unweighted.

For real aid and jugging I mean to use a Petzl Connect Adjust. That adjustable daisy with a fifi in the end a friend of Kevin Deweese makes is state of the art for leading aid pitches.

Hudon swears by the simple Metolius adjustable daisies, but I wanted something that inspired my fat ass with more confidence.
Greg Kommel · · Ridgecrest, CA · Joined Aug 2016 · Points: 31

I have a quick story to share about the Kong Slyde.  I have one that I've used with 8mm cord.  It was the fattest cord I had and it worked fine in my testing.  So I took it up on a multipitch route.  It was working fine, I was enjoying the quick adjustability.  Several pitches up, while sitting back blissfully at a hanging belay, I dropped.  The two parts of the cord in contact inside the Slyde had slipped past each other.  Luckily I had tied a safety knot in the end of my tether, so I only fell about six inches.  I nearly stained my pants with fudge though.  Probably one of the scariest experiences I've had while climbing.  What's worse is that I was dumb enough to think it was an isolated incident and I should try using it again.  I had to drop twice more before I gave up on the 8mm cord.

Moral of the story: Actually I'm not sure there's anything to be learned from my experience... Go ahead and use 8mm!

eli poss · · Durango, CO · Joined May 2014 · Points: 525
Greg Kommel wrote: I have a quick story to share about the Kong Slyde.  I have one that I've used with 8mm cord.  It was the fattest cord I had and it worked fine in my testing.  So I took it up on a multipitch route.  It was working fine, I was enjoying the quick adjustability.  Several pitches up, while sitting back blissfully at a hanging belay, I dropped.  The two parts of the cord in contact inside the Slyde had slipped past each other.  Luckily I had tied a safety knot in the end of my tether, so I only fell about six inches.  I nearly stained my pants with fudge though.  Probably one of the scariest experiences I've had while climbing.  What's worse is that I was dumb enough to think it was an isolated incident and I should try using it again.  I had to drop twice more before I gave up on the 8mm cord.

Moral of the story: Actually I'm not sure there's anything to be learned from my experience... Go ahead and use 8mm!

I've had the same thing happen using 8.5ish mm half rope with mine while route setting. However, I don't think mine would invert during any normal use when out climbing. The kind of loading that caused it to invert when setting was far more severe, off axis, and odd than it would ever see when I use it out climbing (assuming I never take a high factor fall onto it, which is pretty easy to prevent).

Moral of the story: You're probably fine with 8.5mm cord but it's better to use 9mm as suggested (or maybe 8.9 or 8.8mm if you thoroughly test it before ever using it off the ground)
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