Single line rappel with a retrievable anchor?

I am new to rappelling and have set up a few times already on a double strand rappel with a retrievable anchor using a tag line.  My question is, is there a way to do a single strand rappel and be able to retrieve the rope and anchor i.g. webbing and rings.  Any input is greatly appreciated.  

YGD™.

The Beal Escaper. You're not going to retrieve the anchor, though

Bakka Otaku wrote: I am new to rappelling and have set up a few times already on a double strand rappel with a retrievable anchor using a tag line.  My question is, is there a way to do a single strand rappel and be able to retrieve the rope and anchor i.g. webbing and rings.  Any input is greatly appreciated.  

If only there were some kind of search capability on the internet........

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&q=single+line+rappel+with+retrievable+anchor

Try looking into the equivocation hitch. There are plenty of videos on the internet. Just be careful, it has plenty of short comings... Use it wrong = YGD 

Assuming you still have the tagline you can just use a biner block to turn the double strand rap into a single strand rap. If you wanted to rap then entire length of the rope single strand, the beal escaper is your best option.

Biner block:

If you don't know how to tie the alpine butterfly knot then a fig 8 on a bight or overhand on a bight will also work.

However, climbers typically don't use retrievable anchors for variety of reasons. If you're doing it just to save a few bucks on leaving webbing and rap rings then you're much better off just sucking it up and leaving some webbing and rap rings.

If you want to use retrievable anchors for other reasons, you should look into canyoneering rappel techniques but also keep in mind that there are very good reasons why climbers don't apply canyoneering techniques when out climbing due to different circumstances.

If you're new to rappelling (and climbing?) then do yourself a favor and just stick with the tried-and-true basics and don't try to get fancy or tricky at this stage in the game.

eli poss wrote: keep in mind that there are very good reasons why climbers don't apply canyoneering techniques when out climbing due to different circumstances.

I want to say the circumstances are sanity, but then I reflect on the stuff we do..

If you get into alpine climbing, you'll need a quiver of rope shenanigans including the equivocation hitch, which was already mentioned.  Until then, heed Healye's advice.  Keep things simple and learn (and stick with) the basics.

Everett wrote:

I want to say the circumstances are sanity, but then I reflect on the stuff we do..

That is arguably part of it but not all. In canyoneering there is a preference towards single strand raps for various reasons, which tends to make retrievable anchors easier. Also, the amount of force generated by rapping is usually much much lower in the canyoneering context, which allows canyoneers to get away with a lot of stuff that climbers shy away from (with good reason).

Yikes.

Becket hitch and then whip it off like reins (shout “yah! Yah!”).

P.s. do not do this

bet it's a troll post

but, if we are going to go there? -  why not go play in traffic?                                                                                                                                                                                                            if it's day time it might be safer than. . . :

 Fiddlesticks

A harbinger of dumb oops, well, - that too...

 Doom;

 A harbinger of doom,

Jeff guest's  how to: basics on using a fiddlestick - YouTubeVideos.io
https://youtubevideos.io/Jeff-guest-how-to-basics-on-using...fiddlestick,/pjZRp2lyQRM  . . .
ha Ha!
 so since I posted that 2 days ago,   It has been removed from youtube, that should tell you something

enough to be dangerous

&

Smooth Operator 

The grenade pin trick for the stone knot.

Its exciting and effective

The Fiddlestick is terrifying, not just because I'm Gonna Die, but also because I'm Gonna Get Stuck In This Fucking Canyon. No thanks.

Jared Chrysostom wrote: The Fiddlestick is terrifying, not just because I'm Gonna Die, but also because I'm Gonna Get Stuck In This Fucking Canyon. No thanks.

Have you ever tried it? Even after you unweight the rap line, it can still be tough to pull the fiddlestick out of the stone knot. To pull the fiddle stick out while the stone knot is cinched down tight from the weight of the rappel would take a hell of a lot of force. Of course it's scarier than rapping off a biner block but it's significantly less so once you've educated yourself about the fiddlestick and played around with it a bit. 

So what is the advantage of a fiddlestick over a regular biner block and tag line setup?? I've always been confused about that 

Dr Strangelove wrote: So what is the advantage of a fiddlestick over a regular biner block and tag line setup?? I've always been confused about that 

To prevent contributing to the deep rope grooves that form in soft sandstone when people pull their ropes.  With the fiddle stick, you pull the tag line away from the rock so it can't create any grooves and then once the fiddlestick comes out the rope just falls down, no pulling. And also because fiddlesticking (or macrame) is the only option if one is trying to ghost the canyon, leaving zero trace (this means you're retrieving the rap anchor as well)

What if the anchor is just a tree (no tat) is there a sneaky way to do a full 60 meter rap with just a rope and a tag Line without leaving anything? 

rockhard wrote: What if the anchor is just a tree (no tat) is there a sneaky way to do a full 60 meter rap with just a rope and a tag Line without leaving anything? 

you could rap directly off the tree, but if you do this then you will be hurting the tree a lot when you go to pull your rope

There are lots of ways to do this sort of thing but, again, don't do any of them if you're new to climbing and/or rappelling.