Anchor Knots, just clove it?

Hi guys,

It seems like the clove hitch is the answer to almost everything. I was messing around with the below equalette, but i guess theres no point for any directional fig 8 or alpine butterfly to connect to any of the biners, because you might as well have the adjustability and ease of use from the clove. Theres only 1 alpine butterfly below but id do all three, kind of a pain to “equalize” but whatever.  Mabye do the two right butterflies and the one left a clove? 

The pieces need to be multidirectional. The knot will 99% of the time only be pulled in one direction: from the pieces to the master point. An upward, downward or lateral force to your anchor would still create the same direction pull on the knots.
So cloves are fine, the main drawback is that they can be tough to get off carabiners.

This is a good use of cloves.  They will not have an issue if the direction of loading changes.  A butterfly would not be as practical here, but would work.  For tying into the middle of the rope a butterfly is great, a clove would not be as practical.

Btw, cloves are easy to untie, even after loaded.  Just roll it back an forth to loosen it.  

Cloves are a great knot, especially for anchors. To give you extra confidence in them, know that some people rope solo with a clove hitch on a biner as the “belay device”.

Also, clove hitch’s are the easiest (bomber) climbing knot to untie.

So yes: Just clove it.

Aside: My partner once made a three piece equalized anchor using just the climbing rope and clove hitches.

PS you can save yourself a shit load of hassle if you just use a cordellete.

Note your Master Point isnt exactly redundant in the photo (unless you're clipping to both biners?).  Either way, I would make one of the center strands a Sliding-X for redundancy at the Master Point.

Here´s a tip;- "Don´t overthink it".
I´ve been climbing for over 50 years, I´m also an instructor and I also know more about "equalising" belays than anyone else on earth (a somewhat sad claim to fame I´ll admit).
I´ve never used anything else than a clove on the pieces with the rope. I´ve never used or felt the need to use a cordalette (or it´s equivalents) except for building instructional top-roping belays where the climbing rope isn´t available.
Forget the sliding rubbish, just tie a big knot as a masterpoint and adjust the cloves on the pieces, the force is nearly always downwards and if it isn´t your sliding setup wouldn´t help one bit.
I´ve never tied an Alpine Butterfly and wouldn´t know how to, a completely superflous knot in my opinion.

Cory F wrote: Note your Master Point isnt exactly redundant in the photo (unless you're clipping to both biners?).  Either way, I would make one of the center strands a Sliding-X for redundancy at the Master Point.

Hi yes id clip into both biners, i have the doible biner in my mind from practicing my toprope anchors!