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Drytooling on BD Venom Ice Axe

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Buster B · · Southern California · Joined Aug 2016 · Points: 105

Is it possible to drytool or ice climb easy routes using the Venom Ice Axe by Black Diamond? 

I have one axe, the one with the adze on the right, and want to know if I should buy another or look for a pair of used tools.
Melanie Shea · · Denver · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 10

Possible yes, enjoyable no. Hook your pick on something and hang from it see if you like it.
I do know that you can put proper picks on them as they use the standard BD pick system.
What grades are you looking at?

Buster B · · Southern California · Joined Aug 2016 · Points: 105
Greg Shea wroteWhat grades are you looking at?

Maybe M5? I am yet to go drytooling but climbing a vertical wall seems doable. I also have g-12 Grivel crampons, will these work? Grivel provides a graphic that indicates they are suitable for ninety degree climbing, but those paired with ski boots seems like a bad idea. Or I have a pair of semi-rigid La Sportiva boots that I usually use for mountaineering, that might be able to be used as well.

Buster B · · Southern California · Joined Aug 2016 · Points: 105
Briggs Lazalde wrote: Mono points and reverse curve picks

Are my picks not good enough for M5? Or should I lower my “M5” expectations?

NathanC · · Ogden, UT · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 15

Two hammer tools are also quite nice to avoid taking an adze to the face, but you might not be as clumsy as I am.

Buster B · · Southern California · Joined Aug 2016 · Points: 105
NathanC wrote: Two hammer tools are also quite nice to avoid taking an adze to the face, but you might not be as clumsy as I am.

Do you think one Adze and one hammer would feel weird due to the weight differences?

NathanC · · Ogden, UT · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 15
Teddy B wrote:

Do you think one Adze and one hammer would feel weird due to the weight differences?


I've never noticed a difference, but others may be more attuned to their tooling.  I have a set of older vipers, which have an obnoxiously large adze attachment relative to the hammer, which is why I bring the point up.
Melanie Shea · · Denver · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 10

I would borrow as many tools as you can and get out a bit more before deciding, if you can. If not, I've mostly been using two very technical tools for most things lately and not worrying about that one weight sacrifice too much, it means I can move confidently through all terrain, especially nice if the rack is minimal or zero. (Yikes ski boots are not a fav)

Kevin Mcbride · · Canmore AB · Joined Jan 2017 · Points: 505

I climbed M7 with a set of venoms with the tech picks. I didn't like it, but it worked. If you do get hooked on the dark art of rock scratching, then invest in an actual set of tools

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