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Trango Phase 18cm Quickdraws

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Paul Bionaz · · Ripon, CA · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0

I just purchased 15 draws from trango; after doing a little bit more reading, im not too sure how I feel about them. The main reason I bought them is because the dog bone is 18cm. How bad did I screw up? Rather than buying BD or Mammut

Bryce Adamson · · Connecticut · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 1,443

The Phase is a lightweight and inexpensive carabiner that isn't too small either. I like it better than the comparable BD carabiners. You could pay twice as much for something nicer, but it wouldn't affect how hard you can climb.

Rob warden The space lizard · · Now...where? · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 0

Are you trying to only sport climb on them? 

Alexander Stathis · · Chattanooga, TN · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 657

They're fine. I like the phase a lot. 

Charles DuPont · · Portland, ME · Joined Oct 2017 · Points: 118

One of my favorite all around quickdraws. Sure if your only climbing sport there are better (petzl spirit, djinn, etc) but for the price the phase can't be beat.  

Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480

I’ve used those carabiners and draws on ice. A friend of mine sponsored by Trango. I liked them a lot. If you make a clip with gloves on then the Phases should be great on rock.

J Roatch · · Leavenworth, WA · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 162

Basing your feeling on what you read or your experience with them?

I’d recommend using them and deciding what you think 

Luke Andraka · · Crownsville, MD · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 15

My favorite trad draw

Paul Bionaz · · Ripon, CA · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0

Yes, I will be sport climbing almost 100 percent of the time with them.

Basing on what I read, they are coming in the mail so I haven't tried them out yet.

Rob warden The space lizard · · Now...where? · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 0

They will not be good for that man... you want the smooth draw from them

The 18cm dogbone will twist and back clip. Take a ziptie cut it to fit the gap between the Barack and the top biner and tape it shut. 

Bryan K · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 652

The phase carabiners are definitely on the smaller side, so if you have large hands they might be fiddly to clip, but I have a few and have no issues with clipping.  They are nice carabiners for a good price.  Just practice clipping them a bunch and you'll get use to them if they're a bit small for you.  The bonus about them is they're super light.  The difference in weight between 12 of those and regular BD quickdraws is nearly a pound.  I've also found the gates can get sticky fairly quick, so check the spring tension every now and then and lube them if they need it.

Ryan SD · · Rapid City, SD / Reno, NV · Joined May 2015 · Points: 0

I have my cams racked with them and some alpine draws with them....I love them. I enjoy them far more than a bd neutrino 

Benjamin Mitchell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 0

I use them for trad and ice climbing and I really like them. For sport climbing it's nice to have a draw with full size carabiners, a wider dogbone, and some sort of snag free gate on the bolt side carabiner (or on both carabiners) but the phase will work well enough.

Kevin Mokracek · · Burbank · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 363

They are fine, everyone has a favorite and will tell you that you should have gotten brand X draw but the Phase is fine and will work great.   Don't get put off by peanut gallery.    You did fine buying the Phase.

Tom Steinbrecher · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0

Had the phase quickdraws, raided the carabiners for some alpine draws. I've had no issues with them and find the carabiners totally adequate. Honestly for wire gates I typically go with the cheapest 'biners I can get, having more expensive wiregates isn't going to make me climb harder

Sam Wilson · · Asheville, NC · Joined Apr 2018 · Points: 105

I have 6 phase draws as part of my sport rack. I’ve always enjoyed them and I love how light they are, so much so that I think I might replace the rest of my draws with phases. I think they’d be great for most any climbing application, but they work great for me for sport

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