Move to California or Colorado?

Hi!
I'm thinking either to move to colorado or california, What do you guys think? I like bouldering, sport climbing, and want to get into trad and maybe big wall climbing. To the people who have climbing in both states which one did you like better? 

Mikey Wally wrote: socal is weird

the climbing scene?

If you are a climber moving from Texas, you'll probably be happy in either state. You'd need to provide some more detail if you want specific advice, however. If you just want to climb, go and check out both areas for a while as a dirtbag. You'll likely gravitate towards one state or another.

Can of worms.

CO has alot of "great" climbing that's kinda chossy and dirty. CA has the pristine white granite, go there. Don't take my word for it just look at photos from both areas.

Plus ever hear of a song called Colorado Girls? Didn't think so.

Travelling climber here, I've climbed both places pretty extensively, albeit a while ago, and for my style of climbing I preferred Colorado. Love Eldorado Canyon, and Boulder brewpubs. I cut my climbing teeth in the park and surrounding areas. BoCan is a great place to learn to climb.

But California is really hard to beat for climbing" The "Ditch" alone has a lifetime of climbing. The Sierra Nevada mountains are reason enough to move there,  they are incredibly beautiful.  Joshua Tree, too many smaller venues to even name. There is rock everywhere.

The down side to CA...the rest of it   .  A lot of people, housing is outrageous, getting anywhere takes forever, and you HAVE to do it in a car, because they don't have enough sidewalks. The smog is something else in LA. They don't have enough water, never had enough water. Outside of the population centers finding a job isn't easy, unless you like minimum wage service jobs.

 

Why CA and CO?  Busy crags and trails, too many people.  If you have unlimited options, why only these two?

Tradiban wrote: Can of worms.

CO has alot of "great" climbing that's kinda chossy and dirty. CA has the pristine white granite, go there. Don't take my word for it just look at photos from both areas.

Plus ever hear of a song called Colorado Girls? Didn't think so.

Move to cali

Move to Connecticut. That starts with a "C", and you'll be less likely to move here...

Best, OLH

My vote is for Florida they have alot of untapped climbing so you could get alot of FAs.

Nice part about my job is I have to fly out to CA on my company's check a few times a year. Get to visit but don't have to live in that nightmare. After spending 2 weeks working there I am borderline suicide with dealing with the traffic etc.

Buck Rio wrote: Travelling climber here, I've climbed both places pretty extensively, albeit a while ago, and for my style of climbing I preferred Colorado. Love Eldorado Canyon, and Boulder brewpubs. I cut my climbing teeth in the park and surrounding areas. BoCan is a great place to learn to climb.

But California is really hard to beat for climbing" The "Ditch" alone has a lifetime of climbing. The Sierra Nevada mountains are reason enough to move there,  they are incredibly beautiful.  Joshua Tree, too many smaller venues to even name. There is rock everywhere.

The down side to CA...the rest of it   .  A lot of people, housing is outrageous, getting anywhere takes forever, and you HAVE to do it in a car, because they don't have enough sidewalks. The smog is something else in LA. They don't have enough water, never had enough water. Outside of the population centers finding a job isn't easy, unless you like minimum wage service jobs.

 

Funny, I've lived in CA for 12 years and never had any of those experiences other than the housing bit. Spend some time in CA and in places other than LA or the Bay before you comment on what CA is like.

Tapawingo Markey wrote:

Funny, I've lived in CA for 12 years and never had any of those experiences other than the housing bit. Spend some time in CA and in places other than LA or the Bay before you comment on what CA is like.

You're right, those ARE the two places I have had to spend the most time, so I definitely am qualified to comment on them. And Chowchilla and Indio and Palm Springs.

I like CA, but for my job I would have to live LA, San Jose or SF...or Des Moines. We don't have anything in Tahoe or Bishop or Redding. Some of my extended family live there, and they do complain about the jobs, not finding jobs that can pay for the mortgage and a new car. They work in Chowchilla womens prison, and are lightly educated.

CA is going to be facing some interesting water problems in the near future(if climate change is real) that I am wondering what the solution is going to be like.

Do you have a job?  Move to the place where you can work and afford to live.  There is plenty of good climbing in either.

Either.  Doesn't matter.  You'll end up in Utah anyways and someone will make the "green license plate" comment.

CA, for sure.

California. Yosemite, J Tree, Taquitz, Bishop. Lots of world class stuff there!

I learned today on MP that you need a permit to use a Jetboil or stove in California - what a joke!!!

don'tchuffonme wrote: Either.  Doesn't matter.  You'll end up in Utah anyways and someone will make the "green license plate" comment.

What is the "green license plat" comment?  Am I missing out on some pre-teen humor? do tell, for real

grog m aka Greg McKee wrote: I learned today on MP that you need a permit to use a Jetboil or stove in California - what a joke!!!

It's a free permit that you get when you pick up an overnight backcountry permit. Essentially you sign that you understand fire use regulations and its a way of holding users accountable in the event that they're found to be at fault for causing a fire. Hardly an "inconvenience".

Depends on where you live in California. If you're in one of the major metropolitan areas it's a huge drag to be a climber in California. So much driving to get to the good stuff. It really wears on you over time. But if you're lucky enough to live in a small town somewhere in the mountains then it's a different story.

CO for sure.

Keep in mind Denver is like living in Sacramento, and has just as good or vastly better sport climbing within the standard driving radius of CA (huge state) which ie would include Wyoming and Utah from a home  base in CO.

Besides, they really like Texans in CO.