Any recommendations for via ferratas near Corvara?
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I plan on climbing a via ferrata route solo on eith July 15th or 16th and I will be staying in Corvara. Any recommendations near Val Gardena or Sella Pass? I lead around 5.10 a-c and multipitch trad climb at 5.7 so far. I have some decent mountaineering experience from summiting exposed peaks. I looking for something with decent exposure that would be equal to a class 3-4 climbing or low 5's. |
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Do this one first if you can get over there. It's a little drive from Sella. Via Ferrata Giovanni Lipella, Tofana di Rozes 3225m |
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Via Ferrata Giovanni Lipella looks pretty great! The descent is going back down the same route, correct? |
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I second the Giovanni Lipella. Or Punta Anna, but that one starts closer to Cortina above the World Cup Lady's Downhill Start. |
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Tridentina is Great. It was my first VF. I had for years an issue with VF and thought they were for weak gumbys. I matured past that and tried that one on my last trip and had a blast. It will feel easy compared to a 5.7 alpine route, but has great exposure and is nice and long and you will be able to move fast if you avoid the crowds. I never thought I would climb a face like that with my wife in an hour and a half. There were moderate crowds when we were up and we passed many people easily. The bridge at the top is great, and for me (I get spooked by man-made heights: towers, chairlifts, ferris wheels, suspension bridges, etc.), got my heart beating. |
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Try the guidebook "Via Ferratas of the Italian Dolomites" Vol 1 North, Central and East, by John Smith and Graham Fletcher. publisher is www.cicerone.co.uk For actual climbing routes, try "Classic Dolomite Climbs" by Anette Kohler and Norbert Memmel. Near Val Gardenia we did Torre Firenze North-West Arete...About 10-12 pitches, mostly less-than-5.5 with one or two moves of 5.6-5.7. |
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Robert Hall wrote: Try the guidebook "Via Ferratas of the Italian Dolomites" Vol 1 North, Central and East, by John Smith and Graham Fletcher. publisher is www.cicerone.co.uk Here is the direct link to the book mentioned above, looks like a blast! https://www.cicerone.co.uk/via-ferratas-of-the-italian-dolomites-volume-1 |
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@Robert, |
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@Kirk, How would you compare the difficulty of Punta Anna? It's rated a 5C in my guidebook, but I'm not sure what that converts to compared to mountaineering the Yosemite Decimal System. |
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there is a revised version of Vol 1, more accurate and current https://www.amazon.com/Via-Ferratas-Italian-Dolomites-central-ebook/dp/B07CM3H8L3/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1530671261&sr=8-1&keywords=james+rushforth. |
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1st pic is on Tridentia, 2nd pic is on the Torre Firenze North-West Arete , about 1/3 of the way up. |
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Ethan Ayer wrote: @Kirk, How would you compare the difficulty of Punta Anna? It's rated a 5C in my guidebook, but I'm not sure what that converts to compared to mountaineering the Yosemite Decimal System. Good question, probably YDS 5.8 or soft 5.9. VF ratings seem to be fairly conservative. I did Punta Anna with my 68 year old brother who is athletic but not a climber. Given the published difficulty rating, and the fact that this was his first VF, I was concerned that he'd be in over his head, but with the owner of the climbing shop in Cortina that rented us our VF equipment highly recommending the route, he chose it. Punta Anna, also known as Ferrata Giuseppi Oliveri, is said to be fairly vertical, as VF go, but is newly equipped and has only one section that my brother found pumpy. In retrospect, I might have brought 30 meters of six mm, but he pulled through and delighted in the climb. As will all Dolomiti VF, the views are stellar, so try to go with a clear sky and spend a night at the CAI Refugio Giussani. And, for sure, rent a hard hat and screamer set. |
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Robert Hall wrote: Try the guidebook "Via Ferratas of the Italian Dolomites" Vol 1 North, Central and East, by John Smith and Graham Fletcher. publisher is www.cicerone.co.ukThe guidebook from AlpenVerlag is completely superior. And their guidebook for via ferratas in Austria (including southern Germany) is almost more important, since arguably the best Via Ferrata routes are now in Austria. Ken |
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Ethan Ayer wrote:I am considering Brigata Tridentina and going for an early start if I can avoid the crowds I like climbing "free" on a Via Ferrata route, with my hands and feet directly on the rock . . . only clipping the steel cable for Protection, not grabbing it for Aid. I do that lots and lots days, not only in the Dolomites but all over Italy and France, on VF routes in the valleys as well as the mountains. VF Brigata Tridentina (Pisciadu klettersteig) could be a nice introduction to climbing free on a via ferrata. I think I'm remembering that the whole thing goes free with no moves harder than 5.6 (or is it less, say 5.3?), and much is 3rd and 4th class. If find you like that, you could someday try other VF routes with segments sustained 5.8, even short sequences free at 5.10. But need to stay well within your capability, since actually falling while correctly using a normal VF kit in the normal way is usually a very bad idea, could easily result in serious injury requiring helicopter rescue. Tridentina is (understandably) about the most crowded VF route I've ever done. One strategy I used to deal with the crowd was sometimes to disconnect from the cable and climb free solo a few feet off to one side of the cable. Go much faster, also discover the enormous difference of unpolished limestone. Key danger is that if a hold breaks (which surely can happen with limestone, especially sections not climber much), I'm dead. Best to temper the speed and freedom with careful testing. Ken |
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Ethan Ayer wrote:book by James Rushforth Wow . . . that's a very new Via Ferrata guidebook I did not know about. Rushforth also wrote the English-language RockFax guidebook for roped climbing in the Dolomites - (surely superior to that outdated climbing guidebook mentioned earlier in this thread -- whose outdated topo once got my partner and I off-route on a famous popular Dolomites multi-pitch).Hopefully Rushforth for his new VF guidebook has incorporated some of the latest best info (and style and graphics) from the German-language guidebooks, rather than relying on that old-school English-language one that lots of Americans are still using. Ken |
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Kenr wrote" VF Brigata Tridentina (Pisciadu klettersteig) could be a nice introduction to climbing free on a via ferrata. I think I'm remembering that the whole thing goes free with no moves harder than 5.6 (or is it less, say 5.3?), and much is 3rd and 4th class. " Agree!!! However, my recollection is that there might have been a low-class- 5-rated move (5.3-5.4?) down low ("P1" ? ) but that it was all mostly Class 3/4, and that at the top there's a wonderful "hut" where you can get a cold beer and lunch on the terrace, and the hike down was a graded path. (Which, of course, means there'll be lots of hikers ordering beers with you! ) |
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Yes that sounds about right for Tridentina. |
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Robert Hall wrote: VF Brigata Tridentina my recollection is that there might have been a low-class- 5-rated move (5.3-5.4?) down low ("P1" ? ) but that it was all mostly Class 3/4 For those who want more difficult "free" climbing on VF in driving range of Corvara, like say ... * finishing to the summit with two pitches 5.8-5.9 sustained dihedral* bigger wider higher mountain views * less crowded * combine with interesting pretty loop trail-run / hike * option to ride mechanical lift down to Parking (or instead go down a unique Worle War I VF route inside the mountain). - - > VF Cesco Tomaselli Alas there's been so often rain and snow when I"ve been visiting the last few years, I haven't been able to do it in a long time. Hopefully this September. Fortunately there's so many VF routes with interesting free climbing outside the Dolomites nowadays, I'm doing just fine anyway. Ken |
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Lipella descent goes over the top of the peak and down a regular hiking trail. You do not reverse the route. |
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A lot of rain and t storms in the forecast next in Corvara. If this stays accurate, I may have to go for a more moderate route so I feel safer during bad weather. Of course I will only go if there is a forecasted break in weather. Hopefully this would dissuade the normal crowds. |
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Feeling safer and dissuading the normal crowds will not help if you get electrocuted by that _long_ conductive steel cable acting according to its expected physics as a lightning-attractor.
I am not aware that this physical attraction is lessened if the cable is on a less-difficult route. I note that VF Tridentina is N-facing and parts are shaded, so not quick to dry out (esp if it snows). And that making an early start to beat the afternoon lightning storm could be seriously cold. And grabbing a steel cable with bare hands is not likely to warm your fingers. Consider also that there are wonderful low-altitude VF routes with lots of interesting "free" climbing sequences, once get past the mystique of "The Dolomites". (and use guidebooks other than RockFax). Easier to switch to those valley routes (or a fun cross-cultural indoor gym experience or remarkably convenient outdoor low-altitude non-raining non-cold Sport-climbing "klettergarten") if based in Ortisei / St Ulrich or Wolkenstein on the margins of the pretty peaks, rather than Corvara in the "heart". Ken |