Anyone have mammut’s new magic slings?

How do you like them?

Don't have them but have used them.

They're super useful just as any sling is, I'm a fan of the construction, although it's a bit stiff. The coolest thing about it is the strength of it through the dyneema construction as opposed to webbing construction.

Personally, I wouldn't purchase them because they are too stiff for my liking.

Like them but because of the stiffness I constantly rack every other sling. They tend to end up my racking sling for sorting and organizing gear for a trip. 

I was given a 60cm as a present but they seem too stiff for my liking so probably gonna sell them.

I have one. Will probably not buy more but I like having one for applications where I put a knot in that will be weighted since it unties super easy due to the stiffness 

I was thinking of using them for crevasse rescues 

Consensus.. they are durable but stiff as hell.  Not good slings IMO.  Look at the edelrid tech web if you’re looking for durability.  

Not sure what part of crevasse rescue you’re trying to use them for but I’d recommend looking elsewhere.   Nylon cord for prussiks is the standard.  These wouldn’t hold a friction hitch.

I guess I'll just use them for anchoring around rocks and running belays like they said they were made for =\

I love mine, I use it as my personal tether so that it'll always be at hand, keeps it out of the way versus if I kept it rattailed on my harness. 

Eldelrid tech web slings are much, much nicer.   Same benefits but soft and supple rather than a stiff ring.   You could play ring toss with magic slings.

Kyle Tarry wrote:

Is there any reason why "normal" slings are insufficient for this purpose?  They seem to be the standard, both in modern educational material and in practice.

No reason, I already have the magic slings so might as well put them to use. 

I've got the double shoulder lengths and use them for quad setup, personal anchor and/or slinging around trees and rocks. I also keep a shoulder length one for slicking around rocks and such as well.

The reduction in strength for knots gives me piece of mind.

The 120 cm sling is pretty super awesome for rigging a two bolt anchor.  Very easy to untie and great durability.

Makes a pretty awesome lanyard/extended rappel sling too.

And yes that the sling doesn't lose strength as Dyneema does when knotted is a big plus.

Not sure I'd use one for much else though as they are a bit bulky and probably (no experience) more likely to absorb a lot of water, so I am not going to be taking it mountaineering or ice climbing.
 

coldfinger wrote:
And yes that the sling doesn't lose strength as Dyneema does when knotted is a big plus.
 

hmmm i would check that if i were you.  all slings, ropes and webbing lose strength when knotted regardless of their construction

I have one, only ever used it to tether to anchor bolts. No complaints in that application.

curt86iroc wrote:

hmmm i would check that if i were you.  all slings, ropes and webbing lose strength when knotted regardless of their construction

Check yourself before........

​Thanks to its special construction, the Magic Sling 12.0 offers significantly higher knot strength in comparison with conventional webbing slings.​​​

​Tying a knot in a Dyneema® sling weakens it even further leading to sling failure in a fall-factor 1 loading on to a 120 cm sling.​​​

coldfinger wrote:

Check yourself before........

Thanks to its special construction, the Magic Sling 12.0 offers significantly higher knot strength in comparison with conventional webbing slings.

Tying a knot in a Dyneema® sling weakens it even further leading to sling failure in a fall-factor 1 loading on to a 120 cm sling.

thanks for proving my point.

curt86iroc wrotehmmm i would check that if i were you.  all slings, ropes and webbing lose strength when knotted regardless of their construction

coldfinger wrote:
Thanks to its special construction, the Magic Sling 12.0 offers significantly higher knot strength in comparison with conventional webbing slings.

Both statements are logically consistent with each other.

curt86iroc wrote:

thanks for proving my point.

There was the word "as" in my original statement which you need to read again, as in 'as much strength lost' as knotting with Dyneema.

Sorry that is still going over your head.

Sheesh!

And yes that the sling doesn't lose strength as Dyneema does when knotted is a big plus.

What you MEANT to write: And yes that the sling doesn't lose as much strength as Dyneema does when knotted is a big plus.

there is an inherent difference in these 2 statements.  in the first, you are implying the sling loses 0 strength when knotted.  sorry, but sentence structure matters...

I won't be hassled by either the Grammar or Karma Police as much as some folks here!