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Stiff new rope....!!!

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Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16

Hi,
I bought a new rope and its really stiff. if i move it, it stays in the place. I read somewhere it's ok to use fabric softener on a rope to remove stiffness?
do you guys recommend using it?

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276

Personally, I've never heard of using fabric softener on a rope and wouldn't do it.

What brand rope is it?

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
FrankPS wrote: Personally, I've never heard of using fabric softener on a rope and wouldn't do it.

What brand rope is it?

it's Chinese....

:(
FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276

Yikes, sometimes saving money can cost you! If you know what I mean. Be careful.

Alan Emery · · Lebanon, NH · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 239

Sounds like a static rope.  Even half static and half dynamic (gym ropes) are not stiff.

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
reboot wrote:

Chinese is NOT a brand. IIRC, Sterling or Blue Water has recommended small amount of fabric softener while washing the rope.

It kinda is :D it is brandless... try aliexpress you ll see alot of brandless ropes.... but they do guarantee 20KN  

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
FrankPS wrote: Yikes, sometimes saving money can cost you! If you know what I mean. Be careful.

that's all you can get here in Pakistan :/

Aanif Zia Taimuri · · Lahore, PK · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 16
here is the picture....
Outdoor Gear Exchange · · Burlington, VT · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 0

That is scary, no way I would buy no name climbing gear other than a chalk bag. I would not compromise my questionable budget rock climbing gear by applying chemicals to them. 

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419

EDIT; POSTED BEFORE THE PICTURE POSTED

Take your rope outside and use it (to top rope). If after a bunch of climbs/laps & then after coiling and un-coiling it -,see if it has a better "hand" or feel. If  it is still  to stiff (& I don't know what to stiff is?)

I would probably  -NOT-  wash a new clean rope in a chemical suspension,

A standard that was taught, (&still is) is to only clean a rope when its dirty, (black 'dust' coating your hands is a good indication of a dirty rope)                                                                                     keep all chemicals, detergents too, away from your life line.

wait ??? what %the hell is that?
of course its stiff< not a dynamic rope

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419


 IT IS CERTAINLY NOT A STANDARD ROCK CLIMBING CORD....

OK, It was family dinner time here,  that gave some time for new posts to show up & all agree.

 but we have a very high standard here in the United States.
 Russian & Czech climbers are well known to make do,-just get along- with whatever they have.

 I think I get what is going on with your purchase of that rope.
 Do you know more?.
 Is this the same as the rope you show . .I think I found it?. . (click on the blue letters)

 .
FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276
Aanif Taimuri wrote:

that's all you can get here in Pakistan :/

You can't order a rope online from a legitimate climbing website? Is there UPS or Fed Ex delivery in Pakistan?

curt86iroc · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 274

nope rope

Aaron King · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2018 · Points: 0

I don't see any DYNAMIC ratings there! Clearly static line? Now super interested.

F Loyd · · Kennewick, WA · Joined Mar 2018 · Points: 808

If it is too stiff, have it think about baseball or wash it off in cold water!
 
Future you:

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419
Michael Schneider wrote:

 IT IS CERTAINLY NOT A STANDARD ROCK CLIMBING CORD....

OK, It was family dinner time here,  that gave some time for new posts to show up & all agree.

 but we have a very high standard here in the United States.
 Russian & Czech climbers are well known to make do,-just get along- with whatever they have.
 I think I get what is going on with your purchase of that rope. Do you know more?.
 Is this the same as the rope you show . .I think I found it?. . (click on the blue letters)

 .
Frank Stein · · Picayune, MS · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 205
Michael Schneider wrote:

Not quite accurate. I don't know about the Russians, but Czechs climbed for a long time on Bolex ropes, which although terrible, met minimum EC & UIAA standards. My first rope was a 11.5mm Bolex rope that I bought in Czechoslovakia. The handling and durability sucked, but falls were taken on it. 

Climb On · · Everywhere · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 0

We often toss around the phrase "Yer gonna die" but seriously YER GONNA DIE.  Please don't lead on that rope.

Tom Stoltz · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 0

You should buy a legit single dynamic rope from a reputable company.  Don't trust anything less with your life.  
This guy is selling a good rope.
https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/114503754/brand-new-sterling-velocity-98mm-60m

Live Perched · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 21

Looks like riggers rope. 

Mark Berenblum · · Gardiner, NY · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 105

Aanif, like others said, I wouldn't climb on that rope. The stated KN breaking strength is essentially irrelevant... that's probably the least-important specification for a dynamic climbing rope. At minimum, I would try to figure out what the elongation is, and absolutely would not climb on that until I find that out (really, I wouldn't climb on that at all). If you insist on climbing on it, at least cut off the sewn ends and tie in with any of the normal knots. I would not trust an untested sewn connection for something so critical.

If you're able to pay American prices for a rope from a reputable brand + the shipping to you, I'd be happy to put it in the mail for you to Pakistan, but I'm not sure what the customs situation would be like on your end once it arrives in Pakistan.

BTW, fabric softener is a relatively-accepted rope treatment. Here's something official from PMI:

"Ropes may dry out and lose some flexibility as a result of washing. You can prevent this by adding a little fabric softener to the rinse cycle during rope washing. Use manufacturer’s recommendations for one load of laundry, which is usually about a cap full of fabric softener. Don’t use any more than this or it might damage the rope. Lubricating ropes using fabric softener should be used sparingly and only when needed."

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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