Self rescue fundamentals
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I am just wondering what others consider to be the essential self rescue skills for venturing into traditional multipitch climbing. |
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I think ascending a rope with prusiks, and knowing how to belay and rappel with a Munter hitch is a starting point. Escaping the belay, tandem rappels and 3:1 hauling might be the next tier. |
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At the very least, knowing how to ascend with friction hitches and descend a taut line with them as well, escaping the belay, using a munter hitch, and passing a knot in case you have to isolate a coreshot. After one has mastered those skills, the next ones would be tandem rappel, counter-balance rap and hauling. |
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I had a guide once in a self-rescue course. The topics were basically, escaping the belay, getting to the injured person, and tandem rappelling to the ground. I'd say those are pretty essential for multi-pitch rock with any remoteness. But more basic things like ascending on prussiks, tying off a belay, and escaping a belay I would say are pretty important for most other climbing. |
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I agree with everything that has been said and would add don't ever forget your knife on a multipitch route. My partner and I got stuck on a 4 pitch route for an entire day early in our careers because of that mistake. Luckily some friends drove by and saw us so they came to the rescue. If we'd had a knife we could've cut our rope and had enough to get to the ground. |
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Having to "escape the belay" on a multi-pitch route is extraordinarily rare. |
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AaronJ, |
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The King Turtle has it right, the best self rescue is the one that never needs to happen. There are a bunch of common mistakes that lead to needing rescue. I'll just tack on a couple extra points |
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Ryan Swanson wrote: You can use dyneema, but it really sucks for friction knots. Accessory cord is way better. Spectra wont work at all though |
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Anyone have a book they could recommend the subject? |
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Ross Hokett wrote: Anyone have a book they could recommend the subject? look 4 posts above yours |
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Ross Hokett wrote: Anyone have a book they could recommend the subject? I like Dave Fasulo's Self Rescue book (but he's a friend) multipitchclimbing.com has some good info to get you started under "Getting Out of Trouble" |
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rafael wrote: Haha thanks was not paying attention |
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Ryan Swanson wrote: Sure bro, I'm sure the pro from Smith knows all about using a new Dynema sling on a new dry treated rope to ascend overhangs. Tell me all about your experience with actually doing it? Other than that, I love Dynema slings. |
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rafael wrote: You do realize that spectra and dyneema are the same thing right? And yes you can use friction hitchs in both, although the performance will depend on the specific blend of nylon and spectra. I've found that Bluewater's titan slings work better for friction hitches than 10mm spectra, probably because it has more nylon. Yes accessory cord is better but slings will work in a pinch. You just might have to add more wraps or use a stronger hitch. Don't count on releasable hitchs being releasable in slings, however. |
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Ryan Swanson wrote: For the intents and purposes of climbing slings, I think it's safe to say that they're virtually identical |
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Take a course in self rescue by an AMGA instructor. I just took one a week ago and it was worth every penny to have the hands on instruction and real time correction in a realistic scenario. And I'm an autodidact and still glad I didn't try and learn this on my own, it's ALOT to soak in. |
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eli poss wrote: I know that to some extent they are chemically the same (I am a chemist) but I have never been able to get my bluewater titan (spectra) slings to grip, is it the weave? Whats your secret to getting spectra to stick? |
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King Tut wrote: Having to "escape the belay" on a multi-pitch route is extraordinarily rare. Huh? So if your partner is injured you'll just let em' hang while you twiddle your thumbs and hope for the best? Escaping the belay (tying of the rope so you can move around) does not mean escaping the rope. If your partner is injured you must be able to assess their condition and act (lower, tandem lower, raise/haul). Hard to do if you're tied into a taunt belay (unless you're using an auto-block). And, being able to tie off the rope does need any special anchor configuration. |
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AaronJ wrote: What are the self rescue skills that any leader or follower should have before leaving the ground? A bare minimum: 1. How to call for resque.2. Practice everything below this line on a regular basis. 3. How to escape a belay. 4. How to safely lower down a heavy load. 5. How to ascend/descend a fixed line using friction hitches. 6. How to pass a knot while ascending/descending a fixed line. 7. How to shift a load from one system to another. 8. Technical ledge. 9. Purcell prusik. 10. Mini polyspast. 11. Primitive 3-to-1 z-system. |
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Andy Novak wrote: Anyone with knowledge of prussiks and basic first aid medical training can do as much as can be done. Its not hard to figure out and its nothing that can be learned from a book or the internet as every anchor etc is different. It is also nothing the OP should be looking for internet experts to weigh in on. He should seek real life instruction before he leaves the ground. ps LOL 3:1 haul. |