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Dynafit TLT6 and cold temperatures
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Apart for the 40 below overboots, is there any other brand making overboots for the Dynafit TLT6? I was doing runs at the local hill and needed to thaw out every couple ski down, it was -30°C with wind... |
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not sure about overboots, but an intuition pro tour liner would probably help a lot. the tlt6 liners are pretty wack imo. |
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I've thought about getting a pair of these--no info, though, but pretty cheap entry fee. https://dryguy.com/product/Boot_Glove |
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Anyone try out those boot gloves with crampons? |
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Intuition liners make a big difference in warmth IMO. Intuition pro tour low volumes work well in those boots. Make sure you’ve got a good fit with no pinch points. And mold the liners with toe caps. I’ve used low profile warming packs as well in touring my boots in very cold weather with success. However TLT6s aren’t warm boots. Were you riding lifts? If so it’s not surprising you got cold. With light touring boots I find I have to be constantly on the move in cold temps to stay warm. |
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if you are riding lifts, try a chemical toe warmer. my gf uses her tlt6 on the resort as well as touring and uses chemical toe warmers 100% of the time. they seem to work well for her... |
brian burke wrote: Yup, I was using those, even opening them 20-30 minutes ahead of them to let them properly activate (not much free O2 in a closed cell boot liner). I guess the -25°C with wind might have been beyond their expected use. |
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Second the upgraded liner suggestion. Heated socks work wonders too and there are some that are ski specific so they’re not much thicker than a normal ski sock. |
Skibo wrote: I have these. I use them when it gets ~0 on my alpine boots. They seem to help. I also have intuition liners, though, which was the bigger improvement. If you have the money and don't love the liners, I'd upgrade. -30 though is still really cold, so the Boot Glove addition would help too. For the fairly cheap buy in (I think I found mine for about 12 bucks at TJ Maxx), they are probably worth 10 degrees of comfort, depending on the boots. If you ride lifts a lot in super cold temperatures and struggle with cold feet, though, I'd get battery powered warmers. I've never tried them, but they changed my wife's life. |
Tim Malacarne wrote: The battery powered warmers are actually incredible. I got 3rd degree frostbite and bought these afterwards. Great in all temps, and last a long time. https://www.google.com/shopping/product/17360582681836302382?lsf=seller:1209243,store:9692799611838223165&prds=oid:15272837181024157839&q=hotronic&hl=en&ei=Kr5fWtWbIYPdjAOkiY2oAw&lsft=cm_mmc:PLA_Google_LIA%7C404_33761%7C8763100001%7Cnone%7C28c7a6a9-60f7-4750-a826-99c410f0f1df%7Caud-87986356584:pla-348198400997&lsft=gclid:CjwKCAiAhfzSBRBTEiwAN-ysWPIjZnA424XSlZB0FCxhi69eC-wXFt9gK2vpqyXBGySV4ISJYgMo6BoCo6EQAvD_BwE |
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Supergaiters might be a possibility. I've used them on plastic climbing boots (so crampons fit fine). And, by golly, I have two pairs for sale, some Black Diamond and some Mountain Tools. I have not used them on ski boots, though. |
Hayden Brown wrote: Yep, those are what my wife uses. My only concern is that he's using them on touring boots and I can't imagine he'll want to leave them in when he's touring. You need to puncture the liner to install and so pulling them in and out might be a bit of a pain compared to regular insoles. You could leave them in with the wire detached from the battery pack. I'm not sure how well they'd hold up with the increased foot movement going uphill. Maybe fine? I just haven't tried it. |
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I tried Pro Tours in my TLT6s and couldn;t stand the muffin top effect. Way too much liner for that boot IMO. As others have mentioned, it is not a warm boot designed for lift riding in cold temps though. |
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I use scarpa branded intuition wrap liners in my tlt6's. The "universal" or "alpine" model (not the super stiff power wrap / model) still tour well and eliminated some pain points for me around the ankle bone. They are also much warmer then the stock liner. I also padded over all of the veins in my foot and used double toe caps when i molded to make sure I could wiggle my toes to keep them warm and I can stay comfortable in similar temps. I wear super thin socks and still wouldn't have room or a toe warmer...If you are cramming one in there maybe it is inhibiting blood low and preventing toe wiggling? If I start riding lifts more i'll spring for a different pair of boots for it. |
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Toss the TLT6 liner, it's terrible. Get some Intuition or Palau low volume liners. I use boot gloves for touring on -30 days and they work well too, provided the shell and the glove are warm when you put them on. You can slip a handwarmer in between the boot and the glove. Crampon fit is largely unaffected. Size down for low volume touring boots. Spinning lifts in lighter boots means you're probably going to get cold feet in any temp though. |
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I know you said "apart from the 40 Below overboots..." But I gotta chime in with a +1 for those things. When it gets stupid cold (which, for me, is like, anything below -20F) I put those things on over my TLT6s and I can be out all day, no problems (that's with some mild frostbite damage on a toe and Raynauds). They weigh, and they're not the cheapest option, but they work. |
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Oh well, after another couple painful endeavour I gave up on the narrow instep TLT6 (for me anyway) and got the Scott Cosmo 3, lots more room, I can even fit warm socks if I don't cinch up the buckles too tight. 150g more per boot but so much more support! thankfully the sole wasn't too much longer so I didn't have to move the heel binding. |
