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Raul P
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Aug 7, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Feb 2013
· Points: 35
Just moved to Colorado from the south east, so my UL kit won't cut it above tree line or sub freezing. What are your favorite four season tents? I'm looking at some of the free standing 2p hilleberg or the new msr remote series. I plan to get a nice and toasty sleeping bag to pair it all with too. Weight is a concern, but not a major one as I can always bivy if I want true UL. thanks!
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Kevin
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Aug 7, 2017
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California
· Joined Jan 2012
· Points: 0
For what activities? I have a North Face VE25 and a Black Diamond Firstlight. Both are great at what they do. Hilleberg is fantastic for its thing, too.
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Merlin
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Aug 7, 2017
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Grand Junction
· Joined Mar 2006
· Points: 10
Hilleberg, after 11 years, 30-60 nights of use a year, rain, snow, heat, high altitude, I finally replaced it with another Hilleberg. The old one probably had several years left but the zipper started sticking and I'm lazy. Just make sure to get a footprint to extend its life. That tent is probably the single most comfortable, useable, bombproof piece of gear I've ever owned.
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Raul P
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Aug 8, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Feb 2013
· Points: 35
Thanks all. It would be mostly used for base camping or multi day trips above treeline in the winter. Weight isn't a huge factor, more interested in warmth/ease of set up and livability. If I need to go fast and light for an overnight I can bivy. All signs are pointing toward hilleberg, but was curious if anyone didn't like them.
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Nick Sweeney
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Aug 8, 2017
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Spokane, WA
· Joined Jun 2013
· Points: 987
I find that my Mountain Hardwear EV2 strikes a great balance of weight, ease of setup, and liveability. The built-in vestibule (really just an extension of the tent body) works really well in practice. The tent is very strong too. I got mine for a killer deal at $375. It's acceptably light at just over 5 pounds when you need something bombproof.
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simplyput .
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Aug 8, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2013
· Points: 60
i have the Hilleberg Atko 1p and love it. I was only able to purchase it thanks to a pro deal but have used it in a variety of inclement conditions and love it. Also, it weighs less than a kilo.
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Jesse Coonce
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Aug 9, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Aug 2016
· Points: 5
If you anticipate heavy snowfalls and expect to be away from your tent for extended periods, the freestanding Hillebergs may be the better way to go as they can handle a bit more snow loading due to the design, however the Hille tunnel tents typically offer more usable living space for less weight. I just bought a Nammatj 3 GT and am looking forward to getting it out in some snow(the thing is HUGE!, I can lay perfectly flat on my back diagonally in the vestibule without touching my head or feet on anything, I'm somewhere between 5'9" and 5'10"for reference) . I am however also contemplating getting a one or two man tent as well for any trips without another person or one or both of my dogs (likely a Nammatj 2 as the tunnel tent design has really grown on me, and other than a tiny solid rock bivy ledge cannot imagine a spot where I could only pitch a freestanding tent, though the Unna, Soulo, and Jannu are in the mix as well). Surprisingly simple to pitch as well in spite of not being freestanding, I had it pitched nice and taut in under 10 mins. on my first attempt without having ever looked at any instructions. Ultralight is definitely one thing that most Hillebergs are not, but they are very durable, well designed and put together. I don't have any extended use reports for you with it yet as I just got mine yesterday, but there are thousands of those that are easily found on the internet. Good luck with your choice and enjoy whatever it is you decide on.
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Raul P
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Aug 10, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Feb 2013
· Points: 35
Thanks Jesse, I'm thinking between the Kaitum, the januu, and the tarra. Good problem to debate. Hilleberg doesn't seem to have too many competitors from what I've seen...
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Nathan
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Aug 10, 2017
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Tel Aviv
· Joined Mar 2015
· Points: 170
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Caleb Schwarz
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Aug 16, 2017
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Colorado Springs, CO
· Joined Mar 2016
· Points: 120
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rory
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Oct 22, 2017
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Visalia
· Joined Jun 2017
· Points: 0
Trango 3 is what I rock. The lofts in the walls for storage and vestibule all attribute to its versatile construction, guy lines anchored, it's a house, unmovable. And reflective fiber in the tag lines help find it in storms especially with a headlamp. Has the light weight option where you can pitch the fly and the footprint as well. Heavy weight is a drawback, but split it with a partner,or go with the evo2.
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C J
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Oct 23, 2017
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Sac Valley, CA
· Joined Jun 2017
· Points: 0
Have both a MH Annapurna and an EV2. Annapurna is absolutely great if you can find one and want double-wall I highly recommend it. Everyone that's spent a night in it have loved the features for the weight. Essentially a Trango 2 on a diet. The EV2 is OK for a night or two, and it was fine in AK on the West Butt with single occupancy. Hilleberg are awesome, with an awesome price to boot.
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Sam M
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Oct 25, 2017
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Portland, OR
· Joined Oct 2017
· Points: 30
Merlin wrote:Hilleberg, after 11 years, 30-60 nights of use a year, rain, snow, heat, high altitude, I finally replaced it with another Hilleberg. The old one probably had several years left but the zipper started sticking and I'm lazy. Just make sure to get a footprint to extend its life. That tent is probably the single most comfortable, useable, bombproof piece of gear I've ever owned. You replaced an entire (extremely expensive) tent because the zipper was sticky? Fail
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Kevin Do
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Oct 25, 2017
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Los Angeles, CA
· Joined Feb 2017
· Points: 0
They no longer make them but the past year Sierra Design Convert 2 has been serving me well. double wall with similar pitching to the Hillebergs. The new one doesn't interest me as it goes back to a separate fly and body.
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Ryan Hamilton
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Oct 25, 2017
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Orem
· Joined Aug 2011
· Points: 5
Kevin Do wrote:They no longer make them but the past year Sierra Design Convert 2 has been serving me well. double wall with similar pitching to the Hillebergs. The new one doesn't interest me as it goes back to a separate fly and body. Yep, I have and love the Convert 2. I really like the single wall design for alpine trips that don't need or require an extended base camp. The Big Agnes Shield 2 is very similar and also really good. Both tents vent and handle storms really well. No condensation inside the tent. Only downside is the vestibule is extra on the Shield 2. But it's crazy light for a 4-season tent.
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Brandonian
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Oct 29, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2015
· Points: 35
Msr has new 4 seasons , Nemo kunai 2p.... these options are half the weight of some of the traditional 4 season tents
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r m
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Nov 11, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Apr 2015
· Points: 0
I have a Jannu, nice functional tent. Only annoyance is condensation forms on the high bathtube walls, and the foot end of the tent is quite sloppy so you might get your footbox a bit wet in light of the mentioned condensation. Sure isn't light though so gets left behind on some snow trips in favour of a mid, which is a happy place below freezing - though I don't use the mid above the tree line - I figure its size is going to lead to a lot of wind being caught.
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Nate D
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Nov 12, 2017
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Tacoma, WA
· Joined Nov 2015
· Points: 950
I really like my hillebergs. Have 2 Nammajt 3s and a Keron 4GT. Used for expedition style outings. I haven’t dabbled in alpine fast and light style climbs in hard winter conditions yet; but if I was going to get into that, I could see switching to a single wall ultralight option from MSR. I’ll push the limit of my -20 sleeping bag using only a Cuben fiber flat tarp with a ground cloth, because I have usually only tried climbs that either require expedition style, or they are objectives where I know I can bail easily/safely; so maybe that style also fits your criteria? But if you really need full protection for committing routes probably not a good choice. Best to opt for a fully enclosed structure then
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