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Sohan Pavuluri
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May 1, 2017
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Bangalore, IN
· Joined Mar 2013
· Points: 52
Folks, I have 10 mm wedge bolts from Fixe, and every once in a while I seem to find that the bolt gets wasted as the bolt gets stuck midway. am I doing something wrong?
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20 kN
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May 1, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Feb 2009
· Points: 1,346
Are you drilling the hole with a 10mm drill bit? Lots of people seem to like to use 3/8" bits for 10mm bolts, but you shouldent. A 10mm bolt is designed for a 10mm hole, not a 3/8" hole. My suggestion would be to use the remainder of your stock and then buy actual 3/8" bolts from Hilti or another reputable brand. The Hilti Kwik 3 series are great options. They probably cost less than the Fixe bolts too. You can find 10mm bits on eBay and Amazon from overseas fairly cheap (like $5 each). Also on an unrelated note, if placing 12mm bolts you absolutely must use a 12mm bit. A 1/2" bit is not safe when paired with 12mm bolts because it creates too large of a hole (13mm roughly) and the expansion clip/ cone will run out of expansion travel allowing the bolt to pull at low loads. The 3/8" bit with 10mm bolt is less of a safety issue because in that case it creates too small of a hole (9.5mm) but it does make it hard to insert the bolt.
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Sohan Pavuluri
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May 1, 2017
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Bangalore, IN
· Joined Mar 2013
· Points: 52
Sorry, the Fixe wedge bolts are 3/8th in size. And I am using appropriate sized drill bit.
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Micah Klesick
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May 1, 2017
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Charlotte, NC
· Joined Aug 2013
· Points: 3,971
John Wilder wrote:Happens to me too every once in a while with 5-pieces. I usually take that as a sign to change my bit. This. I'm drilling basalt and after about 10-12 holes the bolt will often start to get tight. That's when I change bits.
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Pnelson
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May 1, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jan 2015
· Points: 635
Micah Klesick wrote:This. I'm drilling basalt and after about 10-12 holes the bolt will often start to get tight. That's when I change bits. Yup, bit's getting dull. I do find that sometimes as the bit gets dull, you can bevel the edges of the hole a little to cut down the chances of the bolt getting stuck midway. But it's also time to get a new bit.
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M Mobley
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May 1, 2017
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Bar Harbor, ME
· Joined Mar 2006
· Points: 911
John Wilder wrote:Happens to me too every once in a while with 5-pieces. I usually take that as a sign to change my bit. This and let the drill do the work and dont push too hard, you'll find the bits last longer, sometimes twice as long.
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Sohan Pavuluri
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May 1, 2017
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Bangalore, IN
· Joined Mar 2013
· Points: 52
Thanks a lot folks! Think I have been spoilt too much by the 5-piece Rawl bolts, that seem to last 50-60 bolts before I need to change the drill bit.
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Jim Titt
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May 1, 2017
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Germany
· Joined Nov 2009
· Points: 490
As the bit wears run it in and out a few times in the hole which helps a lot, also change to a better bit manufacturer. Hilti are best but horribly expensive! Also!!! Last month I had a long discussion with a customer who had loads of problems with 12mm bolts (in slate) where about a half of them jammed going in. After a here and there about how to change them he tried my original suggestion and actually used a decent sized hammer which solved the problem.
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nbrown
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May 1, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2007
· Points: 7,967
zibircut wrote:Sorry, the Fixe wedge bolts are 3/8th in size. And I am using appropriate sized drill bit. From my experience the Fixe wedge bolts that are advertised as 3/8" are actually 10 mm in diameter. I've used them on and off for years and this has always been my experience. I just checked my (new) stock of them against my 3/8 hilti kb3s for comparison and can confirm that this is still the case. I know the threads are different but for a quick check try switching the nuts on the Fixe "3/8" with a Hilti 3/8 if you have one of each. Although not ideal, if you are hand drilling with a new bit (especially in medium-hard rock) or you "ream out" the hole (as previously suggested) they will work okay with a 3/8 bit.
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