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Ryan Dirks
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Mar 21, 2017
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Washington D.C.
· Joined Jul 2012
· Points: 5
I'm heading to Moab for the first time this weekend, but unfortunately it is looking like a moderate chance of rain for part of the time. Can I get some advice / recommendations on what to expect for drying-out time? Obviously it is impossible to predict exactly given the uncertainty of the forecast, but I'm looking for guidelines. Does it usually dry out pretty fast? If it rains a bit at night will it usually be dry by afternoon? Should I even bring my climbing gear? Maybe a better question is what is your rule for establishing whether it is safe to climb? 24 hours of dry sunny weather, or a dry dusty base? Gut feeling? I'm not sure if it matters but we'll be looking for some relatively moderate climbs, probably wall st or ice cream parlor.
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BrokenChairs 88
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Mar 21, 2017
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Denver, CO
· Joined Feb 2015
· Points: 240
If the ground around the climb is dry and sandy then you're good to go. If the sand is damp it's a pretty good indication that the rock is also still wet. As far as time frames it really depends on how much rain and for how long. Unfortunately you'll probably see people still climbing Wall St. right after a rain storm so don't fall into the if they're doing it it must be okay and make your own assessment. I would still bring your gear and if you get rained out there's plenty of things to do in the area. There's great skiing in the La Sals, biking/hiking trails.
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Guy Keesee
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Mar 21, 2017
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Moorpark, CA
· Joined Mar 2008
· Points: 349
Depends on the sandstone.... the soft stuff like Stoney Point can stay very weak for a long time... sometimes holds ripp off weeks after the rain and there is still water- mud on the back sides of the hold... The sandstone in the Sespie is bullet hard... you can climb on it when it is raining. It has traction and grip.... Supersandstone! I have never been to Moab... do what the locals say to do.
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Charlie S
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Mar 21, 2017
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NV
· Joined Aug 2007
· Points: 2,415
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DWF 3
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Mar 21, 2017
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Boulder, CO
· Joined Nov 2012
· Points: 186
At least 3 weeks. 6 weeks for the fishers.
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DanielHart
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Mar 21, 2017
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Carpinteria ca
· Joined Dec 2016
· Points: 5
I would wait a minimum of a week probably longer in the desert. I climbed two days after a rain in Dayton Tn with really hard sandstone and dry soil on the ground and pulled a 64lb undercling off and broke my finger into 7 pieces , I had to get 12 stitches in the tip of my finger. Not only is it selfish to climb wet stone it can be harmful to your health.
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other
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Mar 28, 2017
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San Diego, CA
· Joined Apr 2006
· Points: 15
It rained hard in moab yesterday and may rain today. It probably rained in Indian creek. I've read 36 hours after rain is ok. Never read longer except in this thread. How long are people waiting to climb the creek?
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Matt Pierce
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Mar 28, 2017
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Poncha Springs, CO
· Joined May 2010
· Points: 312
Dont fuck this up people. We drove to the creek from Denver last year and hiked up to Way Rambo and managed to be the first party at the base of Blue Sun but soon realized that it just seemed a little too wet/had probably rained in the area overnight. So we made the very difficult choice to just leave. That's a tough choice when you travel all the way out there. But it's the responsible thing to do. As we were leaving it actually started raining lightly. We passed a party actually climbing and the leaders comment was "well it seems dry up here..." Whatever dude.
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other
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Mar 29, 2017
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San Diego, CA
· Joined Apr 2006
· Points: 15
The scrawled note doesn't answer the question. Need to know before driving there if it's wet or if there's mud. Need an actual timeframe in hours or days after rain stops.
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Fernando Cal
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Mar 29, 2017
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SLC, UT
· Joined Dec 2015
· Points: 25
Depends on how wet the rain is.
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other
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Mar 29, 2017
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San Diego, CA
· Joined Apr 2006
· Points: 15
Amazing how hard it is to get a real answer to a direct question from passive aggressive people. Obviously in high desert Utah in march it's closer to 40 then 80 and it's generally not highly windy. If you have no idea just admit it.
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other
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Mar 29, 2017
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San Diego, CA
· Joined Apr 2006
· Points: 15
The comments in this thread have been worse then useless. Three weeks? Hahahahaha
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Matt Pierce
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Mar 29, 2017
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Poncha Springs, CO
· Joined May 2010
· Points: 312
other wrote:The scrawled note doesn't answer the question. Need to know before driving there if it's wet or if there's mud. Need an actual timeframe in hours or days after rain stops. WRONG - we left the wet Way Rambo and headed over to The Wall and it was bone dry. Sometimes you dont know until you get all the way out there. And if you get out there and it's muddy walk back to camp and have a beer. Another mistake people make is checking weather in MOAB - the creek isn't MOAB. And the sketch photo - it came from Friends of the Creek Facebook page...if anyone knows about this shit it's Lisa Hathaway, Sam Lightner Jr and crew...
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Dave-o Friedman
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Mar 29, 2017
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Fort Collins
· Joined Jan 2006
· Points: 5
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Charlie S
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Mar 29, 2017
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NV
· Joined Aug 2007
· Points: 2,415
Amazing how hard it is to get a real answer to a direct question from passive aggressive people. Hmm. I thought the graphic (provided in a link and as an image) were rather complete in the process.
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slim
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Mar 30, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2004
· Points: 1,103
it may be a direct question, but there isn't really a straight forward answer. it just depends on so many things. was there a predominant wind during the rain? this can blow a lot of water into some cracks, while cracks on the lee side could be dry. was it windy or calm after the rain? wind can help dry things out faster. was it humid/muggy/cloudy after the rain or hot and dry? what was the duration of the rain? if it rained continuously for several hours, then you will probably need 2 or 3 days to dry. if it was just a quick sprinkle and the sun came blasting out afterwards you might only need an hour or so. if you are driving from san diego for a short trip i would probably bag it, or at the very least have a backup plan.
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Marc801 C
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Mar 30, 2017
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Sandy, Utah
· Joined Feb 2014
· Points: 65
other wrote: Amazing how hard it is to get a real answer to a direct question from passive aggressive people. Obviously in high desert Utah in march it's closer to 40 then 80 and it's generally not highly windy. If you have no idea just admit it. Your question is similar to "How long will it take me to climb 13a?"
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other
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Apr 9, 2017
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San Diego, CA
· Joined Apr 2006
· Points: 15
Not really it's just the sarcastic trolls or engineer types that love to needlessly complicate everything. 36 hrs is the correct answer
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Eric Carlos
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Apr 9, 2017
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Soddy Daisy, TN
· Joined Aug 2008
· Points: 141
General rule of thumb it minimum 24-48 hours. IF it is a sprinkle, and then dry, sunny and windy, no more than 24 hours, if it is a soaker, and cold and overcast, 48-72.
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Roy Suggett
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Apr 9, 2017
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jul 2009
· Points: 9,136
It depends: 1) Amount of precipitation, 2) Length of storm, 3) The temp.s after the storm, 4) Wind, 5) Sandstone formation, and most importantly, 6) Your ability to read the substrate. Like ice, this is the most crucial component. Without expertise...give it a week.
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Ryan Dirks
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Apr 10, 2017
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Washington D.C.
· Joined Jul 2012
· Points: 5
Thanks for the feedback everyone. My trip was last week, and it ended up working out just fine. We climbed on the first day and had a great time at Wall St. It rained a half hour that night so we went mountain biking the next day, which was way more fun than I expected. The rock and ground were dry the third day so we got a little bouldering in too. Interesting range of viewpoints... I knew there wouldn't be a hard and fast answer but it is still interesting to see the responses.
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