Lappnor Project- Burden of Dreams

Full 30 minute documentary is available on vimeo for $9. Watching it now- worth paying to support the filmmakers and Nalle in my opinion!

thelappnorproject.com/

I'm really curious how future attempts/ascents will go. Who gets the second ascent? Ondra? Woods? Webb? Will they agree with the proposed V17/9A grade?

Saw someone mention a possible flash by Ondra on another forum. At first I thought how absurd that sounds. But I'd imagine there is a real chance. Considering the beta is now in full light, it's been shown to be possible, and the short nature of the route. Slightly different dimensions of a climber could make any one of the moves a very different experience from Nalle's. I'd imagine Ondra has at least had the thought cross his mind.

That would be a real dick move.

why? problems are established for others to challenge and verify its grade

Video is free on BD website right now for 5 days

Worth watching!

Recently I was compiling a list of V15+ problems and senders and realized that Nalle has never sent a 16. Yes, he sent Gioia, but its first grading, by Core, was 15 (it was Ondra who, as second, graded it 16; Nalle declined to affirm either the original or the secondary grading.) 

Nalle has not sent a 16 that wasn't downgraded, and Ondra's only 16 is Terra Nova, another out-of-the-way problem that won't get much traffic, and therefore hasn't seen a second ascent. 

Bundesliga sit is 15/16. 

My one thought on this is that Nalle spent seven seasons, but he actually changed his beta in the 6th season, thus actually sending quickly after changing beta.  Does that affect the grade?

Eric Carlos wrote:

My one thought on this is that Nalle spent seven seasons, but he actually changed his beta in the 6th season, thus actually sending quickly after changing beta.  Does that affect the grade?

I would say so after banging my head against a V1 I could not climb it (feeling like a V5 / V6) than realizing I was being retarded and climbed it properly and sent it easy.

Eric Carlos wrote:

My one thought on this is that Nalle spent seven seasons, but he actually changed his beta in the 6th season, thus actually sending quickly after changing beta.  Does that affect the grade?

The fact that he sent it soon after trying it with a different sequence shouldn't in itself change the grade. I also assume that he proposed V17 given the sequence he sent it with...