Vapor vs Vapor V

Anyone tried both? How does the fit compare between the 2? Judging by pics there appears to be more downturn on the vapor (laces).

Lalp wrote: Judging by pics there appears to be more downturn on the vapor (laces).

That's only because the angle of the 2 photos on Scarpa NA's website. From the same angle (bottom one from Scarpa's international site) the downturn look the same:




I've tried the lace in the store & it's not as downturned as the photos would suggest. In fact, I thought it'd make a good thin crack shoe like the Katana Lace if sized correctly (unlike the old orange version which had much higher toe box volume).

In the store the last felt completely the same. I imagine that the lace will be a much better edging platform once broken in with the full length sole. I can't say for sure though, ended up just getting another pair of Katana Laces on sale instead.

Despite the photos, I think that the lace version is less stiff and less downturned (or certainly will not remain as downturned) compared to the velcro version. If sized correctly, I think the lace version is a good thin-crack shoe, similar to the Katana lace. These both feel like they have smaller/more secure heels than most SCARPA shoes.

I've got small heels, but big toes and high-volume feet, and I don't get as good of a fit on either of the updated Vapors as I did on the original orange model.

I think that by far the best technical edging/toeing shoe that SCARPA (or anyone) makes, is the Boostic.

thanks for the info. i thought the newer vapors to be superior to the old in terms of fit and comfort myself.

I was very impressed with my crack climbing sized Instinct laces when I went to the creek. They were jamming comfortably in smaller sized cracks and use face holds better than a mocc or mythos. Quite soft but that is largely a factor of the sizing. The original orange version I thought were similar to Miura laces, these are probably similar to those or Katanas.