New petzl gri gri

Any one else seen or heard of this? I caught wind of a new grigri about a year ago. Interesting to see Petzl will be announcing it soon. Could be interesting.

tsouth wrote:Any one else seen or heard of this? I caught wind of a new grigri about a year ago. Interesting to see Petzl will be announcing it soon. Could be interesting.

Oh man, I just broke down and got a gri gri 2 to replace my 15 year old gri gri 1 a couple of months ago, I guess I should have waited:(

JIC, a blog-post in German on Petzl Grigri+: alpinsport-basis-blog.de/?p…

Interesting, it looks like it has a lead and TR belay switch. I wonder what the mechanical difference is.

According to the German article referenced above, the new features are:

1. Anti-panic release handle.

2. Two braking modes, one for leading, one for top-roping.

3. A re-engineered rope path that reduces unwanted jamming when pumping slack rapidly.

climbing friend,

can you still no hand the brake strand, rest your hand needlessly on the cam on an ongoing basis against manufacturer safety instruction, and have inappropriate amount of slack out down to your knees or lower, while standing too far from the wall and hardly paying attention to your climber as they do in Rifle?

from the picture of the grigri, it looks like they changed part of the metal plate (probably to make it wear less quickly).

Aleks Zebastian wrote:climbing friend, can you still no hand the brake strand, rest your hand needlessly on the cam on an ongoing basis against manufacturer safety instruction, and have inappropriate amount of slack out down to your knees or lower, while standing too far from the wall and hardly paying attention to your climber as they do in Rifle?

The new design will allow for a blunt in one hand, a beer in the other while sitting comfortably in a lawn chair and working on your tan. Others may decide to use the hands free device to pump the iron and eat the bucket of fish while belaying also.

The critical question is: does this make it easier to text and belay?

I wonder if the TR mode will make it suitable for autoblock/guide mode...?

abaris.co.uk/blog/news/new-…
a article in english, i'm hoping this new grigri is better for roped soloing.

SwabianAmi wrote:The critical question is: does this make it easier to text and belay?

I'm sure you can spring clamp a phone tripod to the grigri to serve as a holder.
No more dropped phone when the leader falls!

Let me be the first to say----

YER GONNA DIE!

Saw one in person the other day. The two different modes adjust the spring tension in the cam, so when in lead belaying mode it allows you to feed slack faster because the cam wont engage as easy. And in TR mode the cam is looser and engages easier because you dont need to feed slack generally.

Another feature that hasn't been mentioned is that certain high wear areas are now stainless steel instead of aluminum, which is nice.

i was hoping it'd be lighter than previous generations :(

Ted Pinson wrote:I wonder if the TR mode will make it suitable for autoblock/guide mode...?

You know you've always been able to do that with a grigri right?

• sigh* here we go.

You can, but it's not recommended (Petzl themselves recommend against it), as it is not a true autoblock like an ATC Guide/Reverso. It is not safe to go hands free (not that you necessarily should on a Guide), and the rope can creep very easily when the device is upside down, particularly with thinner ropes. I personally find the whole experience sketchy and prefer to use a Guide or a redirect off the harness if I'm using a Grigri.

Suffice it to say, there's room for improvement in this area, particularly considering the fact that just about everybody belays seconds off the anchor these days...

Ted Pinson wrote:*sigh* here we go. You can, but it's not recommended (Petzl themselves recommend against it), as it is not a true autoblock like an ATC Guide/Reverso. It is not safe to go hands free (not that you necessarily should on a Guide), and the rope can creep very easily when the device is upside down, particularly with thinner ropes. I personally find the whole experience sketchy and prefer to use a Guide or a redirect off the harness if I'm using a Grigri. Suffice it to say, there's room for improvement in this area, particularly considering the fact that just about everybody belays seconds off the anchor these days...

Sorry to drift but after reading this:

How many people bring a Grigri on a multipitch route? This isn't just directed at you Ted.

I tested it out and the differences I saw were
1 stainless steel top plate
2 adjustability between tr and sport (the camming unit moves easier under tr)
3 usage of thinner ropes and better "sweet spot"
4 panic function

Bill Kirby wrote: Sorry to drift but after reading this: How many people bring a Grigri on a multipitch route? This isn't just directed at you Ted.

I do all the time. I'll even bring one on alpine routes (if I'm climbing on a single rope) so I can use it to manage slack in the system while simul-climbing. Nice for short fixing too. I don't bring an both the Gri-Gri and ATC typically though. One or the other.

sam england wrote: I do all the time. I'll even bring one on alpine routes (if I'm climbing on a single rope) so I can use it to manage slack in the system while simul-climbing. Nice for short fixing too. I don't bring an both the Gri-Gri and ATC typically though. One or the other.

what do you do when you need to rappel?