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Cheap Chinese knock-off ascenders

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Eli B · · noco · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 6,067

Anyone have experience with stuff like these? Should I be the sacrificial lamb?

Righty

Another righty

Lefty

Eli B · · noco · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 6,067
BigB · · Red Rock, NV · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 340

damn, Im in the market for ascenders right now too....they should be ok to use, as long as we remember....wer gunna die!

jacob m s · · Provo, Utah · Joined Apr 2011 · Points: 135
gmclimbing.com/rocking-clim…

note they are not UIAA rated. only CE. could be a good deal or trash
CanDillo · · The Great State -Colorado · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 275

Call me old fashioned but an extra $40 a piece seems well worth my life for ones that are proven to work. But if you live through using them, make sure and post a review :)

20 kN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,346
jacob m s wrote:http://gmclimbing.com/rocking-climbing-gear-carabiner-pulleys-shoes-harness/ascenders-descenders-pulleys.html note they are not UIAA rated. only CE. could be a good deal or trash
They are also EN labeled. The manufacturer is called Good Makings. The company that makes the ascender also makes several other components (carabiners, pulleys, ect.) that are CE certified and fall in the expected price range for the product.



Here is their about us page, which appears to be in Latin although Google Translate can only translate about 10% of it...

gmclimbing.com/about-magent…
PRRose · · Boulder · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 0
Eli Buzzell wrote: Possibly american made?
Made in Taiwan, according to the listing.
climber pat · · Las Cruces NM · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 301

I have a pair of climbtech ascenders and they seem fine and are CE rated.
$44

climbtechgear.com/ascender-…

Patrick Wilder · · Poncha Springs · Joined May 2015 · Points: 45

a buddy of mine has a set of these for caving. I've never heard him complain

20 kN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,346
Seth Kane wrote:look like a knock off of climbtech ascenders to me climbtechgear.com/ascender-…
Which is a modified copy of the original Petzl Ascention ascenders.



It's not uncommon for climbing manufacturers to copy products from other companies, and it's not uncommon for manufacturers to sell and brand products they dont actually manufacturer. For example, Rock Exotica makes carabiners for a number of big name companies including Petzl, and in a twist of irony, some of RE's products are made by a third party for RE. Beal used to make Black Diamond's ropes (all of them). Petzl's ropes are manufactured by Edelrid, and previously by a different company. Mad Rock's pulleys are made by a third party that sells the same pulleys to a ton of other companies, and so on and so on.
bearbreeder · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 3,065
grandwallequipment.ca/produ…

Same as the climb tech ones

85 maple syrup dolahz fur a set

Why risk ebay when you can buy em just as cheap straight from the brand

;)
that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236

You guys do realize CE probably just means Chinese export? looks like cheap crap to me.

BigB · · Red Rock, NV · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 340

From website:

Product Number: AHLASDSTGWE
Made of aluminum alloy for superior strength and durability.
Moulded rubber grip for comfort and better grip.
Chrome-plated, spring-loaded steel cam opens wide for easy rope insertion; knurled release lever offers easy, one-thumb operation.
Fits ropes 8-12mm.
CE Certified: CE#1019 EN#567
UIAA Certified


seems to me that theyre UIAA rated

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236
BigB wrote:From website: Product Number: AHLASDSTGWE Made of aluminum alloy for superior strength and durability. Moulded rubber grip for comfort and better grip. Chrome-plated, spring-loaded steel cam opens wide for easy rope insertion; knurled release lever offers easy, one-thumb operation. Fits ropes 8-12mm. CE Certified: CE#1019 EN#567 UIAA Certified seems to me that theyre UIAA rated
If you believe their claim, it looks like the a fixe capitan and at least with the capitan you can trust fixe that it is UIAA certified.
Edit: looked at the company a bit more, I wouldn't put 2 pence that they have any type of certification, UIAA or CE. do not be fooled by the CE symbol especially considering the Chinglish on the sight as well as the fact they are based out of Beijing, I would on put £100 that the little CE we are looking at is for Chinese Export NOT Conformité Européenne.
20 kN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,346

Taking a closer look, their ascenders nearly look identical to Climb Tech's and Grandwallequipment.com's. It's pretty common for one manufacturer to make the same product for a number of different companies, resulting in several different branded versions of the same product. If I had to guess, I would say that's the case here too. I would feel fine using it. The company has other UIAA certified products, which is not something a counterfeiter would go through the effort of obtaining.

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