Multipitch sport routes in the sun at Red Rocks?

Hi,

I'm a tradster, but my sport buddy would like to learn multi-pitch systems with me on a late November trip to Red Rocks I.e. So he can lead some of the pitches and learn some systems.

Any recos on multipitch sport routes you can do when it gets colder at RR?

It's funny. A month ago I was in RR and we were fleeing to BVC to escape the sun. From my reading on various posts here, though, Black Velvet could be too cold.

Of course, weather is variable. Just curious if there are some mp sport routes that get some sun and/or your thoughts on typical temps in BVC in late Nov.

Thanks much.

Dave

Edit: Was specifically looking for Red Rocks beta as that's destination. Should have been clearer.

Check temps in Owens River Gorge!

Thanks T.Stark and Scott. My bad, was looking for Red Rocks beta as we'll be in Vegas. I have filed your beta away for another trip, though. Thanks much.

There really isn't much multi pitch sport in RR. The only one that I can think of off hand is Man's Best Friend. For multi you are kinda stuck to the trad side.

If he is new to the game and you want to be in the sun and not put him out there too far, I would suggest Johnny Vegas (5.6R) to Solar Slab (5.6) - you can rap the route if you run out of time, and it's a total of 13 pitches in the sun. With the short days though an alpine start and late exit permit call is needed. While it's trad it should be easy enough to give him time to learn systems.

Other sunny routes would include Geronimo, Birdland, Crimson Chrysallis, and a host of others that people can tell you about....I think there used to be a thread here somewhere about sunny routes in RR. Have fun!

This may be a bad idea BUT if you and your buddy climb the grade, check out Unimpeachable Groping. It's a big day with some typical multi-pitch complexity (finding the base, a few hanging belays, a moderately tricky descent) but if you are comfortable managing the multi-pitch complexity and have a desire for some adventure it could fit the bill.

Of course, if 5.10 is near your limit then I would recommend finding something else to climb. It's definitely not an easy day.