New map for Red Rock Canyon

I have made a map for Red Rocks which includes a GPS grid on it. I have also attempted to label all the climbing walls. You can download it at

thomannengineering.com/arie…

Please feel free to use it. It is pretty detailed and will look best if printed on 13x19 paper. Read the qualifiers on the web site before you download the map. I appreciate any comments and if you have GPS readings for any of the walls please send them to me and I will update the map. I will be in Red Rocks at the end of February and will work some more on the map when I return from that trip.

This is fantastic. Flying out to RR tonight actually and will put it to good use!

very nice! Thanks for creating and sharing it.

Cool addition! Thanks for posting

Isn't that final right turn off the Black Velvet road gated off for use only as a trail? Meaning, you're not able to drive it through from 160 to Bonnie Springs?

Who's the stud at Gold Strike? props

linked to Nevada sticky!

For a future rev one thing that would be useful is showing some of the more convoluted descent routes (e.g. Mt Wilson, Cactus Flower, Mescalito summit descents). thanks

This map has opened my eyes to the possibility of driving into Black Velvet from the north (from Bonnie Springs).

Is there something the map is not showing? Maybe a locked gate? Is this possible (easy) in a regular car?

It looks like there's just one wash crossing, as opposed to at least three washes when coming from the south.

Thanks for the comments. I need to put that gate in on the Black Velvet road, somebody please tell me just where it is. If you were to start from the north end at Bonnie Springs, how far south do you go before you hit the gate. I see you go past a building at about half a kilometer and then about another half a kilometer you cross a wash.

I would like to put in the descent routes, but somebody will need to send me a gps track. I will not be doing any of the descents mentioned when I am there in March.

Thanks for help. The new map on the website now has the gate.

I might be missing it, but I think you left off Challenger/Jet Stream wall in Pine Creek?

Yes, you are right, I did not have the Jet Stream Wall in. I added it best as I could based on the contours and the approach descriptions through Pine Creek Canyon and the Olive Oil gully. As always, if anybody has a gps coordinate of this wall (or any wall) please send to me. Over a couple of years we could make this a good map. Although it is on the map I will repeat my address here

gthomann@nycap.rr.com

And yes the ny is New York, ethnically I am an Adirondack climber/developer.

Thanks so much for the map Gary! I really like it. How'd you make it anyway? Do you have some sort of map software? It doesn't look easy.

To anyone else local to the vegas valley that want a print copy of this map I finally got around to going to a print shop and got some copies. They screwed up and gave me a few extra copies which I'd be happy to pass on at cost. $3 a piece or whatever you can afford. If anyone is curious I went to Franklin Doc Services - they were far more reasonable than Kinkos who wanted to rip me off.

Is this map still available for download?

Surprised no one gave you sh*t for calling it red rocks. 

Adam R wrote:

Surprised no one gave you sh*t for calling it red rocks. 

Mountain Project calls it "Red Rocks."

This guidebook calls it Red Rocks:

FrankPS wrote:

Mountain Project calls it "Red Rocks."

This guidebook calls it Red Rocks:

I also call it red rocks. 

Locals call it Red Rock, because that's its actual name, but anyone who angrily corrects you is just being pedantic. 

FrankPS wrote:

Mountain Project calls it "Red Rocks."

This guidebook calls it Red Rocks:

And both are technically wrong because it is quite literally named "Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area"

Whereas the outdoor music venue in Colorado is called Red Rocks Amphitheater

However, everyone knows that "Red Rocks", when said in a climbing context, while technically incorrect, refers to Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area. 

Adam R wrote:

Surprised no one gave you sh*t for calling it red rocks. 

It was a kinder time 10 years ago.