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Sarah Welch
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Aug 4, 2011
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Boston, MA
· Joined Sep 2010
· Points: 0
Does anyone cut apart their guide book and put it into a binder? I am thinking of doing this with my Teton guide book (not just for climbing, I also want to bring parts of it with me to work for reading and it is big!). I feel kind of guilty taking apart a book... If you do this, how did you cut it apart? Utility knife near the spine? Any tips for keeping it as neat as possible?
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Jason Wong
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Aug 4, 2011
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Los Angeles, CA
· Joined Apr 2008
· Points: 10
A printer's shop usually has a hydraulic guillotine cutter that can do really clean cuts. You can call a shop and ask. Kinko's usually has cutters that can do about 200 pages max. A real print shop can do 500. DIY- You can use two pieces of wood and some vice grips to clamp it down at the spine to keep it tidy and either use a utility knife or I've heard of people using a belt sander to just grind away the spine glue. You could also try a bandsaw? Be sure to clamp the book together first before trying any of this. Good luck with your project.
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Matt N
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Aug 4, 2011
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CA
· Joined Oct 2010
· Points: 425
Leave it intact and just photocopy it? Scan it and put it on your smart phone? Seems there are less destructive options.
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Sarah Welch
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Aug 4, 2011
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Boston, MA
· Joined Sep 2010
· Points: 0
Yes, photocopying is the obvious approach that I have used in the past. But it is hard to prevent distortion near the spine, and there are many pages that I might like to have. Thanks for the 'clamping' tip Jwong, I wouldn't have thought of that! Something else I have done for simpler rock-climbs is take a photo of the page and then you can zoom around and read it on the screen. That worked pretty well, but don't forget to take a photo of the descent page too, since that information is often not included right with the route. I always have a fear of relying on a device, though. Paper is more durable.
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thecornyman
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Aug 4, 2011
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Oakland, CA
· Joined May 2010
· Points: 140
Guess this won't work so well for your case but I've moved to buying PDF's instead of books. I pint my own books and usually only take the pages I want and then re-print them when I get home. Call me wasteful or a pirate but about half the time I just give my printed book to someone at the crag on my way out and print another next time. I feel like the good karma cancels out the bad.
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BrianH Pedaler
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Aug 4, 2011
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Santa Fe NM
· Joined Aug 2009
· Points: 50
supertopo.com is a great source for .pdfs. Well maybe not so great, they don't seem to have the Tetons. As for feeling guilty about ruining a book, that's understandable. But maybe think of it this way, if you lugged it all around hither and yon, it would eventually fall apart anyway. Guidebooks take a lot of abuse, or at least they should if you're doing it right!
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Bang Nhan
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Aug 4, 2011
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Charlottesville, VA
· Joined Dec 2010
· Points: 35
Dmm makes a guide book carrier, so that may help saving the guide books from being torn apart?
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Mike Berkow
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Aug 4, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined May 2008
· Points: 5
A print shop should also have a paper drill to 3 hole drill the book for a binder.
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Michael Schneiter
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Aug 4, 2011
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Glenwood Springs, CO
· Joined Apr 2002
· Points: 10,491
I've used binders for guidebooks many times over the years. For example, my Black Canyon guidebook is in a binder because it was getting thrashed and falling apart anyway plus I had pulled pages out of it and laminated pages, sometimes with packing tape, when going to do a route in a hurry. I just cut the cover off with a knife and the glued binding pops apart pretty easily. Then I hole punched the pages to fit in. You can also use a household drill to do the same thing and go through the hole book. I like the binder because I can add beta, topos, pictures, route updates, etc. from the Mountain Project or elsewhere.
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