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Putting your guide book into a binder?

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Sarah Welch · · Boston, MA · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 0

Does anyone cut apart their guide book and put it into a binder? I am thinking of doing this with my Teton guide book (not just for climbing, I also want to bring parts of it with me to work for reading and it is big!). I feel kind of guilty taking apart a book...

If you do this, how did you cut it apart? Utility knife near the spine? Any tips for keeping it as neat as possible?

Jason Wong · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Apr 2008 · Points: 10

A printer's shop usually has a hydraulic guillotine cutter that can do really clean cuts. You can call a shop and ask. Kinko's usually has cutters that can do about 200 pages max. A real print shop can do 500.

DIY- You can use two pieces of wood and some vice grips to clamp it down at the spine to keep it tidy and either use a utility knife or I've heard of people using a belt sander to just grind away the spine glue. You could also try a bandsaw? Be sure to clamp the book together first before trying any of this.

Good luck with your project.

Matt N · · CA · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 425

Leave it intact and just photocopy it?

Scan it and put it on your smart phone?

Seems there are less destructive options.

Sarah Welch · · Boston, MA · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 0

Yes, photocopying is the obvious approach that I have used in the past. But it is hard to prevent distortion near the spine, and there are many pages that I might like to have.

Thanks for the 'clamping' tip Jwong, I wouldn't have thought of that!

Something else I have done for simpler rock-climbs is take a photo of the page and then you can zoom around and read it on the screen. That worked pretty well, but don't forget to take a photo of the descent page too, since that information is often not included right with the route. I always have a fear of relying on a device, though. Paper is more durable.

thecornyman · · Oakland, CA · Joined May 2010 · Points: 140

Guess this won't work so well for your case but I've moved to buying PDF's instead of books. I pint my own books and usually only take the pages I want and then re-print them when I get home. Call me wasteful or a pirate but about half the time I just give my printed book to someone at the crag on my way out and print another next time. I feel like the good karma cancels out the bad.

BrianH Pedaler · · Santa Fe NM · Joined Aug 2009 · Points: 50

supertopo.com is a great source for .pdfs.

Well maybe not so great, they don't seem to have the Tetons.

As for feeling guilty about ruining a book, that's understandable. But maybe think of it this way, if you lugged it all around hither and yon, it would eventually fall apart anyway. Guidebooks take a lot of abuse, or at least they should if you're doing it right!

Bang Nhan · · Charlottesville, VA · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 35

Dmm makes a guide book carrier, so that may help saving the guide books from being torn apart?

Mike Berkow · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2008 · Points: 5

A print shop should also have a paper drill to 3 hole drill the book for a binder.

Michael Schneiter · · Glenwood Springs, CO · Joined Apr 2002 · Points: 10,491

I've used binders for guidebooks many times over the years. For example, my Black Canyon guidebook is in a binder because it was getting thrashed and falling apart anyway plus I had pulled pages out of it and laminated pages, sometimes with packing tape, when going to do a route in a hurry.

I just cut the cover off with a knife and the glued binding pops apart pretty easily. Then I hole punched the pages to fit in. You can also use a household drill to do the same thing and go through the hole book.

I like the binder because I can add beta, topos, pictures, route updates, etc. from the Mountain Project or elsewhere.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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