New Five Ten Supermocc?

Anyone climbing with these? They look leaps and bounds better than the old ones!

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Got mine 2 weeks ago. VERY much like the old mocs. The mystique is thinner and the sole is noticeable softer/more flexible. I like the extra toe rand, fit in the thin cracks well. The elastic and heel design definitely makes for a more secure fit. It's hard pulling mine off at the moment.

I suspect these will be the thin crack shoe of choice for many.

They're TERRIBLE on edges mind you but I can wiggle my toes into nearly everything I've tried so far.

ditto for me:
the supersocks are very soft and supple, comfy stuffed into cracks, but like everyone has versed, bad for edging (worse for edging than ruby slippers actually).

Edging-schmedging!

I only climb in Moccasyms. What this does is make all shoes that lack the sensitivity of the Moc feel like Frankenstein boots. So all good edging shoes are a real horror show. I can't feel anything in my Aces, a renouned edger. So I hate them! Horrors.

So I don't edge, I smear.

I usually add a layer of seam grip to my normal Mocs in about the same area as the "extra" rand of the Supers, and they don't become my "go-to" pair for hard (read: off fingers to rings) cracks until they are well broken in and stretch a bit so my toes are flatter and the sole rubber is worn down quite a bit.

The only drawback is that the heel gets a bit loose by that point, but honestly I'd probably never get a tight-heel with flat toes fit in that last (and the anasazi last in general fits me better than any other I've tried in 20 yrs). So I'm not convinced that this Super moc would be any upgrade or worth adding to the quiver. While the sole starts 1.5mm thinner, using a layer of seam grip instead of full-on rand probably cuts 1.5 (or more) off the total thickness at the part that will matter in those sizes - the area over your smallest two toes AND I can let them stretch first, then add the seam grip once they've molded to my feet.

Stich wrote:Edging-schmedging! I only climb in Moccasyms. What this does is make all shoes that lack the sensitivity of the Moc feel like Frankenstein boots. So all good edging shoes are a real horror show. I can't feel anything in my Aces, a renouned edger. So I hate them! Horrors. So I don't edge, I smear.