locking carabiner size comparison

In the mood to purchase some locking carabiners. I'm mostly curious as to the actual size comparison between the BD Positron screwgate, and the CAMP Orbit Screwlock

I can't seem to find an actual size measurement on the BD... anyone know?

I don't need specifics, but if you have both, are they close in size?

I have some Positrons I can measure for ya.

FWIW, they sit on the shelf. I've gone light, WC Neon, BD Vaporlock, and DMM Phantom.

Actually, I'll sell you some P-tron lockers if you like the measurements.

its on the mec website under specifications tab for their biners

i have no idea how accurate their numbers are

mec.ca/Products/product_det…

If you're interested in lightweight biners, I have a couple BD Vaporlocks (nice and big, good for belaying, an anchor masterpoint, etc) and a couple Trango Superflys (lightest locker on the market I think) that I'm willing to sell. They are all brand new never used. I think I have 2 vaporlocks and about 3-4 Superflys I can sell.

And if you're looking to save some dough I've got a whole stack of Omega Pacific ISO D lockers I'll sell for cheap. They're in great shape, I just haven't used them in a while. Link: omegapac.com/opl6.html

Jon H wrote:If you're interested in lightweight biners, I have a couple BD Vaporlocks (nice and big, good for belaying, an anchor masterpoint, etc) and a couple Trango Superflys (lightest locker on the market I think) that I'm willing to sell.

Jump on Jon's Vaporlocks! They are the reason I don't carry Positrons anymore - less weight, bigger gate, and much wider so they can be used to Munter, hold a bunch of cloves, etc. P-trons are now beater 'biners for TR setups and the like.

Neons are small, like an OZ locker. But, they weigh less than most wiregate non-lockers! I carry 5 and use them like non-lockers, so I have extra lockers in a pinch.

The Superfly is basically identical to the Neon in size and weight. It's a notch-nose, though, while the Neon is a keylock.

The DMM Phantom is similar as well - it has a smaller gate opening but is much stronger.

Being a gram weenie pays off on 'biners, especially when you have a big trad rack or aid rack with 50-100 'biners.

Positron:

Gate: 18.7mm
Length: 100mm
Width: 61.5mm

Vaporlock:

Gate: 20.6mm
Length: 100mm
Width: 68.2mm

Neon:

Gate: 16.8mm
Length: 94.7mm
Width: 56.4mm

Neon, Positron, Vaporlock, Rocklock
Hotwire, OZ, Nano 23