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Arcteryx base layer, waste of money?

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Mark Wyss · · Denver, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 245

Just was wondering if anyone out there has tried out the Arcteryx EON SLW or PHASE SL base layer (or any model for that matter). I have been using Patagonia for as long as I can remember and now I need some new stuff. Any comments or opinions on Smartwool long underwear? Recommendations for base layer t-shirts?

Chris Plesko · · Westminster, CO · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 485

it's all about the cotton t-shirt, cap 1 OR superlight wool for a baselayer for me. climbing, hiking, ultra cycling, it's all the same. From summer to -a buzzilion those are the 3 things I use.

Nathan Stokes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 440

I'm a huge fan of merino wool baselayers. I changed from synthetic and won't ever go back, at least for light and midweight. I find I don't get that skin crawling feeling after a long day in merino like I used to in synthetic. Any of the merino base layers work, I have Ice Breaker, Smartwool, Swobo, etc. I built my collection up with whatever SAC had on super clearance.

WhitneyB · · Golden, Co · Joined Mar 2010 · Points: 25

I've been looking for a good base layer myself, thanks for the post. I'm wondering if Mammut's warm quality base layers are worth the price?

tradryan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2008 · Points: 63
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$22. Works good
iceman777 · · Colorado Springs · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 60

I would say Yes to the Arc'teryx or Mammut there not anything special except for the name and the price , That being said Ive tried the
Arc'teryx phase AR and SV tops there nice but like I said nothing special I don't find them or the Mammut any better than good ole merino wool + silk weight tops/bottoms...

Heres how I fly

mid to super cold = silk weight top w/ a mid weight merino zip neck

mid to cool= exchange the mid weight merino for a 150 weight top.Or if im workin hard just the silk weight top and something to block the wind to go over it when I stop.

Summer alpine just the silk weight zip neck top and something like the Rab Alpine light pants.Maybe throw a T-shirt on over the top

for the legs it's pretty much the same silk weight + light -mid merino wool for cool to cold weather.

I have several merino tops and bottoms none of which I paid full retail for you can find smokin deals starting around April and they just keep getting better the closer to summer it gets.

Buying climbing gear for me is a matter of buying cheap and storing it for next year....ie I buy all my winter gear in April- May and my
summer gear in September-October you find the best deals and will never pay close to retail for any of it... more like 30-70% off
and 99 times out of a hundred you will get the size/color/ brand you want....

cheers.

bearbreeder · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 3,065

thin merino aint the most durable ... synthetics will likely last you longer

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,687

I've swung back and forth between synthetic and wool base layers for decades. While there's no disputing that wool has real advantages, I'm not buying any more of it*. Many of my cold weather outings involve a vigorous hour uphill with a full crag pack, followed by hours of stop-and-go climbing. With a good polyester base layer, my back - which inevitably gets damp against the pack - is dry within the first pitch. With wool, it's wet (as the ads say, it's WARM... and wet) for a couple hours. Dry & warm beats wet & warm in my book.

  • My long johns OTOH are merino wool. Always.

YMMV
Sunny-D · · SLC, Utah · Joined Aug 2006 · Points: 700

Ibex makes some really nice stuff in wool.
Dallen

coldfinger · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 55

Yep ArcTeryx=too much $$, BUT I'd say find some Patagonia on sale, great stuff and it lasts and lasts and lasts, so it ends up being very cheap.

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