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Marmot Never summer zero Degree bag?

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sunder · · Alsip, Il · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 805

Does anyone have any experience with the Marmot Never Summer Sleeping Bag - zero degree
marmot.com/products/never_s…

After i bought it i saw a couple of reviews saying that it retains moisture in the foot box. I don't know if the excess moisture from taking there sweaty feet out of a warm boot and then hoping right into the sleeping bag. Personal i all ways let my feet cool down and change my sock before hoping in the sack.

I have used it once on a 18 degree night with out an issue. The only issue with it being a silk lined bag and wearing a wool base layer, i was getting alot of static build up and was constanty getting shocked for about a 30 minutes everytime i moved. Not fun at all.

Im trying to deciede if i want to keep it or return it.

Also recomendations for zero degree bags down or syntic

jaypg · · New England · Joined Aug 2009 · Points: 10

Used mine during spring trips to Whitney and Rainier. Nights well below freezing. I, too, change socks and cool down before climbing in. No issue with moisture in the footbox. Did any of those reviews provide detail around what pad was being used?

Mike Tsuji · · SLC · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 507

I've had mine for the last two winters and have spent many nights below freezing with several in the single digit negatives. For the money I don't think it can be beat. I've personally never had problems with the foot box.

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

I really like mine as well. Very warm and like all Marmot bags high quaility. Of course it's not a lithium, but for price (especially on sale) you can't beat it. Great bag, I'd keep it. No footbox problems, but I use a long in most of my cold weather bags to store clothes or a water bottle etc.

sunder · · Alsip, Il · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 805

Thanks... I will probably keep it and assume that they were noobs to cold weather/winter camping. And that you need to cool down and let all of the moisture trapped by ur clothing and boots escape before you hop in the sack so it doesn't end up in the bag.

Ryan Kosh · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Nov 2008 · Points: 145

I've taken mine to -10 F (outside temp, a bit warmer in the tent probably) and was alright most of the night. Bring a good sleeping fine and it'll be fine.

BirdDog · · Seattle, WA · Joined Jan 2010 · Points: 5

I've used mine in a bivy sac in low single digit temps - warm & no problems. IMO it's a great value in a down bag.

Randall Chapman · · Grand Junction, CO · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 1,748

I’ve been happy with mine, I’ve had a couple of 0 deg bags like the REI Kilo that were thin in the foot box and I always froze my feet off. I bought the never summer because it had a lot of loft meaning thinner sleeping pad and was thick down in the foot box. I guess it depends on if you sleep hot or cold, my wife sleeps hot and uses a 20 deg bag when I use a 0.

Tim D Danley · · silt, co · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 60

I love mine too. Great bag and 0 problems.

Jaaron Mankins · · Durango, CO · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 930

I was thinking about getting the lithium. Any thouhts.

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

Just that it's double the price. Of course it's a better bag w/ 850 fill, but for me it was a question of price. Five hundo is alot for just a zero degree bag.

Dan Dalton · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 1,465
Scott McMahon wrote:Just that it's double the price. Of course it's a better bag w/ 850 fill, but for me it was a question of price. Five hundo is alot for just a zero degree bag.
I wouldn't call it a better bag. Although it is lighter, and supposedly EN tested to the same temps, Marmot has removed the internal draft collar around the neck to save even more weight. Not as versatile, but definitely smaller than the Never Summer.
bigwallrog · · the farside · Joined Jun 2009 · Points: 20

I like mine just fine.... no problems great bag fir the price

Jaaron Mankins · · Durango, CO · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 930

I am trying to decide between the lithium and the couloir. I know they are a lot, but I need a light bag for spring ski mountaineering. The couloir almost sounds more cut out for snow camping, but is almost a pound heavier than the lithium. Thanks-J

Derek W · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 20
Jaaron Mankins wrote:I was thinking about getting the lithium. Any thouhts.
I've only had mine for a few months but so far I love it. I wish I could get out and use it a bit more though!
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