Is an Ayahuasca retreat a bad idea?

Nick Budka wrote:

go for it. 5meodmt is naturally produced in your body and is the psychedelic component of ayahuasca. It is barely different from serotonin or psilocin (the psychoactive metabolite if psilocybin). That said, the minor chemical difference makes a big difference in your perception and its interactions with your serotonin receptors. You gonna see some shit. 

A drug nerd would say:

“well ackshualllly traditionally prepared ayahuasca is primarily an NN DMT experience, not 5meo dmt.

5meodmt is not particularly visual at all; but in another league universe of intensity when compared to the fun technicolor world of nn dmt.”

NN DMT= well hello god, have i been a good boy?

5Meo DMT= i have exploded into infinity; god and myself and every atom in the universe is part of a singular entity with no end or beginning”

Jason Pirolo wrote:

A drug nerd would say:

“well ackshualllly traditionally prepared ayahuasca is primarily an NN DMT experience, not 5meo dmt.

5meodmt is not particularly visual at all; but in another league universe of intensity when compared to the fun technicolor world of nn dmt.”

NN DMT= well hello god, have i been a good boy?

5Meo DMT= i have exploded into infinity; god and myself and every atom in the universe is part of a singular entity with no end or beginning”

yeah u right, some other plants containing 5meodmt are sometimes included in the mix though. 

Nick Budka wrote:

yeah u right, some other plants containing 5meodmt are sometimes included in the mix though. 

Ah man, a 5meo heavy brew would be extremely 5.9++ R/X.

Might be a lovely time, might be the most challenging experience of your life. And you probabbbbbly won’t die, even though it feels like that is exactly what is going to happen.

yeah u right, some other plants containing 5meodmt are sometimes included in the mix though.

What other plants are included?

I would say no since the answers not in your heart.  If you dont have a real connection to why you might be going into such a brutaly powerful experience, youll at least discover what it really feels like to FAFO.  Grandmother will humble you hard core.  And Grandfather medicine and Grandmother medicine dont compare. 

I would love a transcendent experience so I’m leaning towards doing it, I’m just worried that I will get too philosophical and my life will change dramatically. I’m worried my ignorance is my bliss!

M1 H1 wrote:

I would say no since the answers not in your heart.  If you dont have a real connection to why you might be going into such a brutaly powerful experience, youll at least discover what it really feels like to FAFO.  Grandmother will humble you hard core.  And Grandfather medicine and Grandmother medicine dont compare. 

True. If you aren't ready or able to listen to what the drug will tell you, it could be very unpleasant. Not to mention the practical concerns - dose, drug-drug interactions, purity of product, resources for handling a bad reaction, and so on. 

Please write a detailed trip report and update us afterwards :) (whether it be climbing or psychedelic)

Aldous William Eaton wrote:

I would love a transcendent experience so I’m leaning towards doing it, I’m just worried that I will get to philosophical and my life will change dramatically. I’m worried my ignorance is my bliss!

I would honestly say this isnt the right medicine for that.  It is a healing medicine, and vastly more often than not it is extremely unpleasant and more of a descent into your own shit and personal hell than transcendant of anything.  If you truly dont have any shit, then it definitely isnt the right medicine for you.  Its not a party and its serious work.  You don’t seem to be properly oriented to the magnitude of what youre walking into last minute, and at “significant discount” to boot.  Thats not a doorway I would enter, respectfully.  Im not trying to be a dick at all.  Ayahuasca will absolutely give you what you need though, whether its what you want or exactly the opposite, and there is nothing philisophical about that.  Read over your statements in the above quote again.  Dont go in ignorant and dont discount the power of ayahuasca to change your life.  So if thats not a goal, why are you doing it?  You seem like a happy dude.  That is priceless

 Agreed with somebody else to try mushrooms-that will be much more likely to be transcendant and you can choose your opening in terms of mind set and physical setting.  Like, on the beach in costa rica during the day with some friends.  Thats a hell yes.

Feel free to dm if you want to talk more about it, and do please update the thread if you do go for it!  It could be the most amazing thing you ever do, and coming out alive on the other side is more than half of the journey.  You will definitely be happy to be alive in the morning!  

There nothing to philosophical about it nor will it be life altering. Merry Christmas! 

Another vote to send it.
You’ve been climbing before.
You’ll climb again many times.
The medicine experience will 1000% stand out.
Like everyone I know who’s done it, you’ll be glad you did it.

What if you take it, and nothing happens?  

Cherokee Nunes wrote:

What if you take it, and nothing happens?  

That happens to people for sure

Jabroni McChufferson wrote:

There nothing to philosophical about it nor will it be life altering. Merry Christmas! 

Ok Dad

Aldous William Eaton wrote:

Whoever thinks I’m a bot has to first prove they are not bots.

There is a local climber here who says he was a 5.14 climber until one bad trip and now he is a 5.12 climber. I have never seen him send 5.10, I don’t wanna be this guy.

aldin, you don't climb hard enough to be affected like that. maybe you'll go from a 5.8+ climber tuah 5.7+ climber. 

I never heard of this Aya-what-ever. What’s the goal? All I know is I did shrooms or blotter at many a Grateful Dead concert and had a great time every time. I’ve never experienced depression or anxiety and I often wonder if my experiences with hallucinogens are the reason. It certainly didn’t do me any harm. Of course, I was always careful with doses, environment, and frequency. 

Charlie Kissick wrote:

I never heard of this Aya-what-ever. What’s the goal? All I know is I did shrooms or blotter at many a Grateful Dead concert and had a great time every time. I’ve never experienced depression or anxiety and I often wonder if my experiences with hallucinogens are the reason. It certainly didn’t do me any harm. Of course, I was always careful with doses, environment, and frequency. 

Always start with half 

Antares de la luz y todos sus secuaces esperan para darte su opinion. Y tener un encuentro magico con AP

Jabroni McChufferson wrote:

Always start with half 

Yeah man, you can always do more, you can't do less.

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