PSA RRG Privileged Dog owners

Proving once again women have no safe space from Bruno smh go on with your delusional self

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa. Completely independent of any of these dog threads, I was once "one of those guys."

I grew up in the country, with country dogs given free range of dozens of acres. Our dogs were licensed but often not collared. They were pets, not working dogs. But that said they were definitely not treated as people nor were they afforded any rights whosoever, in the world of humans. If one of them crossed my pop, he'd give them the boot, not a finger wagging dog whisperer of a lecture. 

As an adult I came to dog ownership though that lens. Frankly and in hindsight I was not a responsible owner for the most part. I'd let my dog off leash all the time. I didn't give one single shit if others took issue with it or not. I was selfish and my dog was an expression of that selfishness. I had several run-ins with some park rangers about letting my dog off leash at a bouldering area. As a result I got sneaky and would simply visit more remote areas, rather than comply.

It all came to head for me at a sport climbing crag. Me and my bud both let our dogs run free as we approached the cliff. There were only a few parties there (ah, the good ole days!) and one group also had an unleashed dog. Long story shortened, my dog got into a fight with that other dog. I got him separated very quickly and no hard words were exchanged but it changed the entire atmosphere there at the base of the cliff. Me and my aggro dog were no longer welcome, full stop.

We left, preferring space over confrontation. Didn't climb a thing that day. To rub salt in our wounds, on the way out my buddy's dog got into human shit, ate some of it and it was all over her fur! He didn't notice till she'd rubbed some onto his clothes, wtf. Back at my pickup the dogs were banished to the pickup bed. When my buddy got in the cab and I got a wiff of him I damn near hurled, lol. My following words, we laugh about to this very day (and remain lifelong friends and climbing partners too, I'd add),

"Dude, I can't have human shit in here. I can't do it, it makes me want to vomit. You have to ride in the back." Silence for a minute, then he says,

"You want me to ride in the back with our shit covered dogs?" I answered,

"No. I'm telling you, you ARE riding in the back." Hahahahahahah! He says,

"I understand." And he got in the back. It was just a half hour from home and alls well that ends well. We never took our dogs to a climbing area again, ever. We both talked and agreed we'd learned our lesson that day. I was much better with the leash after that too. Finally one sad day many years later my old doggie up and had a heart attack in our kitchen and passed from this world. It pains me to this day, too. I loved him as did our whole family.

And to close, I have never owned another pet, not so much as a goldfish. I admit it, I am not a responsible pet owner and never was, and likely never will be. And I can't bear the parting. I love dogs and have no fear of them and I still don't care if people let their dogs run free, not at the crag and not in the cafe like the other morning when this guy's unleashed dog sat in the hallway by the bathroom staring into the kitchen, licking his lips. Neither did the staff but that's irrelevant. While I don't care personally I do think we should all be respectful of the law, of other people and their desires to not have dogs up into their shit.

Cherokee Nunes wrote:

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa. Completely independent of any of these dog threads, I was once "one of those guys."

I grew up in the country, with country dogs given free range of dozens of acres. Our dogs were licensed but often not collared. They were pets, not working dogs. But that said they were definitely not treated as people nor were they afforded any rights whosoever, in the world of humans. If one of them crossed my pop, he'd give them the boot, not a finger wagging dog whisperer of a lecture. 

As an adult I came to dog ownership though that lens. Frankly and in hindsight I was not a responsible owner for the most part. I'd let my dog off leash all the time. I didn't give one single shit if others took issue with it or not. I was selfish and my dog was an expression of that selfishness. I had several run-ins with some park rangers about letting my dog off leash at a bouldering area. As a result I got sneaky and would simply visit more remote areas, rather than comply.

It all came to head for me at a sport climbing crag. Me and my bud both let our dogs run free as we approached the cliff. There were only a few parties there (ah, the good ole days!) and one group also had an unleashed dog. Long story shortened, my dog got into a fight with that other dog. I got him separated very quickly and no hard words were exchanged but it changed the entire atmosphere there at the base of the cliff. Me and my aggro dog were no longer welcome, full stop.

We left, preferring space over confrontation. Didn't climb a thing that day. To rub salt in our wounds, on the way out my buddy's dog got into human shit, ate some of it and it was all over her fur! He didn't notice till she'd rubbed some onto his clothes, wtf. Back at my pickup the dogs were banished to the pickup bed. When my buddy got in the cab and I got a wiff of him I damn near hurled, lol. My following words, we laugh about to this very day (and remain lifelong friends and climbing partners too, I'd add),

"Dude, I can't have human shit in here. I can't do it, it makes me want to vomit. You have to ride in the back." Silence for a minute, then he says,

"You want me to ride in the back with our shit covered dogs?" I answered,

"No. I'm telling you, you ARE riding in the back." Hahahahahahah! He says,

"I understand." And he got in the back. It was just a half hour from home and alls well that ends well. We never took our dogs to a climbing area again, ever. We both talked and agreed we'd learned our lesson that day. I was much better with the leash after that too. Finally one sad day many years later my old doggie up and had a heart attack in our kitchen and passed from this world. It pains me to this day, too. I loved him as did our whole family.

And to close, I have never owned another pet, not so much as a goldfish. I admit it, I am not a responsible pet owner and never was, and likely never will be. And I can't bear the parting. I love dogs and have no fear of them and I still don't care if people let their dogs run free, not at the crag and not in the cafe like the other morning when this guy's unleashed dog sat in the hallway by the bathroom staring into the kitchen, licking his lips. Neither did the staff but that's irrelevant. While I don't care personally I do think we should all be respectful of the law, of other people and their desires to not have dogs up into their shit.

 

So what you’re saying is that it’s only a matter of time before Bruno finds himself kissing the human shit covered tongue of some dog and then finally realizes that leashes could work in some cases and maybe it is best to respect a strangers personal space.

Ok, now we’re getting somewhere. 

Problem being is if said shit was Bruno's to start with, he won't think that it smells bad. Probably won't even notice and enjoy the kisses. 

I love it when the dog threads reach the "shit" part...you dog haters are so squeemish...it's almost as if you have a fixation of some kind...

Here are two pictures of Luna taking a cookie from my daughter's mouth. 

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We need more pics of Luna soaking her butthole in a livestock water trough

Dogs growl, moan, whine, hum and more.  You have to take the time to learn their language if you keep one as your companion.  

Luna talks :)

Body posture and movement, head movements, ear position, and of course, TAIL movements, are important too!

Dogs communicate very clearly.  We just need to learn to understand.  

I can take my little warrior with me, which has no offensive power, and can help me at certain times, or keep it in my backpack. 

I just discovered this gem of a thread and was not disappointed. Great work everyone! I will add that I think every climber needs to experience a few weekends at Rifle before bitching about the Red on the internet. Worst case scenario; some of y’all Midwest and southerners will learn how to park at a fuckin crag parking lot 

Kudos plus for Lee County work crews who filled and graded the motherlode hill this morning!!

lisha chen wrote:

I can take my little warrior with me, which has no offensive power, and can help me at certain times, or keep it in my backpack. 

If our dogs were loose at the crag your dog would be lunch for my psychopath. 

Now maybe we can all understand leaving the dog at home right? Cuteness doesn't trump being safe and curtious is the point. Even Brunos love would be lunch. She is a sweet family dog and great in the mountains and on the trails, maybe I should  just take Brunos word that our dogs  are entitled to go everywhere we do and just let the docile inbred type dogs toughen up?

M M wrote:

If our dogs were loose at the crag your dog would be lunch for my psychopath. 

Now maybe we can all understand leaving the dog at home right? Cuteness doesn't trump being safe and curtious is the point. Even Brunos love would be lunch. She is a sweet family dog and great in the mountains and on the trails, maybe I should  just take Brunos word that our dogs  are entitled to go everywhere we do and just let the docile inbred type dogs toughen up?

Why is it all these people who are no where close to the south giving us advice on dogs at crags in the south? Is home that uninteresting?

Danny Birchman wrote:

Why is it all these people who are no where close to the south giving us advice on dogs at crags in the south? Is home that uninteresting?

My dog is from SC Danny, crags are crags everywhere you go

Danny Birchman wrote:

Why is it all these people who are no where close to the south giving us advice on dogs at crags in the south? Is home that uninteresting?

It’s dogs at the crags everywhere, not just the south. You’re not that special. 

Why is it all these people who are no where close to the south giving us advice on dogs at crags in the south? Is home that uninteresting?

The inbreeding has spread, my friend. 

Marc801 C wrote:

It’s dogs at the crags everywhere, not just the south. You’re not that special. 

You keep your NIMBY ways I'll enjoy my God, dogs, and guns. I'll holler at you if I want fresh lobster. If you have anything to say I'll be at Twall climbing naked with no helmet all three dogs on a twenty foot rope barking at the firecrackers I'll be setting off at the most popular area!

Cherokee Nunes wrote:

The inbreeding has spread, my friend. 

God bless America. And when I say God I mean the holy Ghost of Lemmy.

M M wrote:

My dog is from SC Danny, crags are crags everywhere you go

That's obvious. The nitty gritty are the locals. Hard luck being from SC BTW 

Cherokee Nunes wrote:

The inbreeding has spread, my friend. 

This map is pretty conservative….