Other climbing pants with waist like this?

I was wondering if anyone could recommend any other pants they know of that have an adjustable waist cinch just like on the PrAna stretch Zion pants. So far have been unable to find other pants that have that type of adjustable waist, so if anyone else has, please let me know. Thanks for your time!

The adjustable waist on my Zion’s always loosens. I really think outdoor gearlab got it wrong with the Zion’s as editors choice for numerous reasons...

Try Arc’teryx Gamma LT. They have better belts,  are lighter, and slimmer fitting. Got mine for $80 shipped brand new from eBay a couple years ago and they are still going strong.

Purrito Supreme wrote:

I was wondering if anyone could recommend any other pants they know of that have an adjustable waist cinch just like on the PrAna stretch Zion pants. So far have been unable to find other pants that have that type of adjustable waist, so if anyone else has, please let me know. Thanks for your time!

Patagonia Venga Rock pants

Agree with Buck Rio that the Patagonia closure system on Venga, RPS, and other pants works extremely well, in my experience. They have a range of materials from light/breathable/fragile to burly. 

Sam Oudekerk wrote:

The adjustable waist on my Zion’s always loosens. I really think outdoor gearlab got it wrong with the Zion’s as editors choice for numerous reasons...

If you run the belt through the last hole (bottom picture) then it won't loosen up by itself anymore. 

Wrangler makes a decent pair of outdoor pants with an adjustable belt. They run at about half the cost of a pair of Pranas, but are of somewhat lower quality. 

Lamb Shark wrote:

If you run the belt through the last hole (bottom picture) then it won't loosen up by itself anymore. 

Interesting. I'll try that!

They're still not my favorite pants, though, by a long shot. Walmart has basically the exact same pants for like $15.

Most E9 pants have an elastic waistband and an inside drawstring cinch. I swapped from my failing Pranas to them and never looked back. 

topo designs pants have them.  

Rob D wrote:

topo designs pants have them.  

Holy crap $100 bucks for draw string pants!! Yikes.  I was thinking they were a legit contender   Until I saw that.   Let me know when they go on sale.  

I mean, I can't imagine buying any clothing when it's not on sale because it seems like it's always on sale, but my advice to people with this problem (myself included) is just wear overalls or coveralls.  pants never slip down, double knee means they don't wear out like climbing pants.  Plenty of zipper pockets.  

Rob D wrote:

I mean, I can't imagine buying any clothing when it's not on sale because it seems like it's always on sale, but my advice to people with this problem (myself included) is just wear overalls or coveralls.  pants never slip down, double knee means they don't wear out like climbing pants.  Plenty of zipper pockets.  

"Come on Eileen" comes to mind......Dexy's Midnight Runners

D Elliot wrote:

Most E9 pants have an elastic waistband and an inside drawstring cinch. I swapped from my failing Pranas to them and never looked back. 

How do you size them? I can’t find any local to try on.

I've been using a chalk bag strap as a belt for awhile now. It's just as low profile.

Michael Martzahn wrote:

How do you size them? I can’t find any local to try on.

There’s a sizing chart on their US website. I’m a 29-30 waist and I only order small. Their Rondo line comes with the drawstring along with some others. They’re an Italian company so they aren’t easily found in stores, but I order from Bananafingers, EpicTv, and sometimes BackCountry since they normally have them on sale. 

Outdoor Research has added internal drawstrings to several models, including the Ferrosi (for which I am quite thankful).

mbk wrote:

Outdoor Research has added internal drawstrings to several models, including the Ferrosi (for which I am quite thankful).

OR makes good shit. I am also a fan of the Ferrosi. I have Patagonia, OR, prAna and BD climbing pants. And some European knicker type things that I wear in the summertime to show off my scarred up legs ;-)

Black Diamond Notion pants have elastic and tie waist. They also have double layered knees. I have put mine through hell and not even one tear. They are expensive but well worth it! 

some bd pants, like these shown. have an semi-adjustable belt

arcteryx makes lots of pants with those integrated buckles. the material is stretchy, too. i have some sigma fl softshell pants i found on closeout that are great. and they don't loosen over the day like the prana buckle does. i double it back to help a bit.

since their prices are insane tho, i will second the ferrosi pants which are great. internal drawstring and you can tighten the cuffs with elastic and throw a slip knot in to hold it. plus aac members get great deals on em.