Qualifications to Keep a Crag off MP

Kevin Beverly wrote:

Purchasing a bag chalk from Ma Sally's Mercantile and filling up tank a fuel is not going do much for the economy of that town.  The climbers are more of disruption than benefit.

Get with the times dude. Climbing is an urban hipster sport these days. Consequently climbers frequent restaurants, breweries (bars if there's nothing local), buy local memorabilia, etc. They're just like other tourists, except more often childless and young, i.e. $$$$. The days of the dirtbag eating cat food to get by are gone.

Bogdan Petre wrote:

Get with the times dude. Climbing is an urban hipster sport these days. Consequently climbers frequent restaurants, breweries (bars if there's nothing local), buy local memorabilia, etc. They're just like other tourists, except more often childless and young, i.e. $$$$. The days of the dirtbag eating cat food to get by are gone.

You have never been to the town of Roy, have you?  Tourists? Really?

Bogdan Petre wrote:

Get with the times dude. Climbing is an urban hipster sport these days. Consequently climbers frequent restaurants, breweries (bars if there's nothing local), buy local memorabilia, etc. They're just like other tourists, except more often childless and young, i.e. $$$$. The days of the dirtbag eating cat food to get by are gone.

Bogdan's claim backed up by United States of Joe from the last Reel Rock

https://www.redbull.com/us-en/episodes/reel-rock-s6-e3

Fail Falling wrote:

Bogdan's claim backed up by United States of Joe from the last Reel Rock

https://www.redbull.com/us-en/episodes/reel-rock-s6-e3

Yeah, but the town of Roy is a completely different sort of animal, at tiny ranching hamlet vs a depressed mining town. Not to mention, that If you take the shortest approach from the North (the front range), you don’t come even close to the town, which lies 10 miles South. 

Kevin Beverly wrote:

The ranchers lease the land from the Federal Government. Then lock the gates to gates to the land to National Grass Lands keep their cattle safe. Local law enforcement back them up. Access to leased land is complicated to say the least.  

Hunting season brings in more to that town than climbers.  Purchasing a bag chalk from Ma Sally's Mercantile and filling up tank a fuel is not going do much for the economy of that town.  The climbers are more of disruption than benefit.

Source: Hunted those lands since I was kid and have friends that own Ranches north of town.

Sounds like the situation in S AZ with the domes by Babo. Hunting that area is easier than trying to get access to climb or hike.

Kevin Beverly wrote:

You just made me spit out my La Croix, and now I gotta buy a new apple keyboard so I can finish this Rails project I'm working on today.

Here's the link to to the wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy,_New_Mexico#Demographics

It's 142 miles from Santa Fe and 60miles or so from the interstate.  The town can't even support bar full time, in the past it has only been open during hunting season.  Kevin DeWeese. completely diffrent situation than Joe valley. 

Sounds like Ten Sleep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Sleep,_Wyoming#Demographics

They have a brewery and two bars. You say Roy has none? *lightbulb* *cash eyes*

Bogdan Petre wrote:

Sounds like Ten Sleep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Sleep,_Wyoming#Demographics

They have a brewery and two bars. You say Roy has none? *lightbulb* *cash eyes*

Okay, let’s compare the two:

1. Tensleep:  on a major tourist corridor at the foot of the Bighorns, at a mostly summer destination crag.
2. Roy: middle off fucking nowhere windswept NM grassland. A winter bouldering area that attracts weekenders from to CO Front Range.

Anyway, if someone is dying to open a brewery/bar/cafe in Roy, I wish them the very best of luck. However, I am skeptical about the viability of that business plan.