Lost Art of French Free + Falling: A Climber's Gamble
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[edit 12/27: I added second part of title based on where I've directed the thread. Falling discussion starts towards end of page 2. click here to jump directly to it] RGold:Rich: Thank you for lighting the spark! Hope it's all good to quote you. |
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Oui oui. And it gets better with age. |
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I occasionally pull on gear to get up a climb, usually because I am scared or I've already dogged the moves so many times that I want to keep moving and finish before my partner decides to kill me. In those situations, I don't feel too much shame afterwards. When I have pulled on gear during lower commitment stuff, I do feel pretty shitty about myself afterwards. The main problem I have, is that once I start adding any french technique to the mix, I have a really hard time getting my head straight and back into the onsight or bust mentality. A little french seems to lead to a lot of french and before you know it, I'm aiding my way up an entire pitch of something I could easily free. So to avoid falling down that rabbit hole, I often try to avoid any french at all, if I can. Apologies to the French. |
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Andy W wrote: but surely we can have a modern French Free and be proud of it............. I hope not |
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I find that often when climbing long routes in the mountains that sometimes even easy climbs are not so easy. You have to contend with altitude, carrying a pack, less than ideal footwear(ie. sometimes approach shoes or mountaineering boots), general exahaustion from a long approach or altitude, possibly being off route and other things. Also taking a whipper high in the mountains is a much different endeavor - even a sprained ankle can be a very serious and even life threatening injury (ie. getting stuck out in a storm or something.) And let's face it lots of mountain routes have places where you really don't want to fall. And then there is this whole sport climbing of working moves and trying to do them over and over. Works fine at the crag. Not so fine when you are trying to complete 20 pitches in a day. |
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It doesn't matter what others think - pull on gear or draws if you want to. |
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climber 1 "this sure is a tough move.., Say is that a falcon? out there?" |
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“For he that fights and runs away, may live to fight another day.” |
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A needed skill and a great topic. |
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Somewhere I have a great cheat sheet of actual French Free techniques. I never realized it could be so advanced. I'll try to dig that up, because, you know, vive la France. |
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One of my climbing teachers back in the day was of French descent.. He always said proper French Free technique was to scream "Merde!" just before you pulled on your pro. |
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Señor Arroz wrote: Somewhere I have a great cheat sheet of actual French Free techniques. I never realized it could be so advanced. I'll try to dig that up, because, you know, vive la France. I would enjoy checking this out if you happen unearth it! |
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abandon moderation wrote: (and let's be honest, almost any time you can french free, there's good gear). This is not true. French freeing can involve just as delicate placements as any scary and tenuous aid line. Pulling on gear, especially if done well with good footwork, exerts very small and nearly static loads that are far below falling protection standards. |
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Let's further distinguish french freeing into two categories: Controlled vs Desperate. The former being a fluid continuous upward movement, often anticipated and not unlike free climbing, at a similar pace and with equal or less energy expended. The latter is really anything less, typically unanticipated and forced due to fear. |
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FF was long ago relegated to its last bastion - speed climbing (where it belongs), otherwise, its just aid climbing no matter how you attempt to rationalize it within the context of free climbing. |
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I'll confess to a bit of skepticism about this idea that it's often safer to French-free. Obviously are situations in which it is...mediocre gear, and climbing that you will almost certainly fall on if you try to free climb, and some reason you really don't want to or can't downclimb and bail. I've done it for those reasons, but I wouldn't want to make a habit of it, and I'm not convinced it takes any particular skill that's worth practicing. It feels a lot safer to me to stick to routes that are either well-protected (and there are many multi-pitch trad routes where the cruxes are well-protected), or easy enough that falling is extremely unlikely (much more unlikely than me mis-judging some piece of marginal gear that I'm yarding on. |
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When in doubt, aid it out. |
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Andy W wrote: It's here. http://multipitchclimbing.com/ |
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Healyje wrote: FF was long ago relegated to its last bastion - speed climbing (where it belongs), otherwise, its just aid climbing no matter how you attempt to rationalize it within the context of free climbing. “Just aid climbing” may very well save your ass in the mountains. French Free is a skill that all well rounded climbers should have. I’ve got a couple cragging partners here, both excellent climbers. One is admittedly a bit impatient; when he gets to a crux he’s not psyched on or has to spend time on, he’ll just pull through. The other can hang on for forever, fussing with gear, downclimbing to better stances, anything he can do to preserve his onsight. But that means sometimes he takes for foreeeeeeeever.Guess which one I’ll go into the mountains with? |
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My partner and I got stuck in a storm 20 feet below the top on Whitney. We were not sure how exactly to get to the top and found a splitter crack. Maybe would’ve gone at 5.9 buuuuuuut in the rain no way. We French freed up for speed and to get out of there safely. |
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HOW TO FRENCH FREE PROPERLY: |