Picking up climber/hiker hitchhikers
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Jeffrey K wrote: You're conflating impact of an adverse outcome with the probability of it happening. Based on data (not anecdotes or sensational media reports), the probability that something bad will happen when you pick up a hitchhiker is low. |
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I only pick up hitchhikers dressed as construction workers or mailmen, occasionally those wearing native american headdress. |
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Jack Lumber wrote: I only pick up hitchhikers dressed as construction workers or mailmen, occasionally those wearing native american headdress. I may not be picking up hitchhikers, but I might have accidentally picked up a... lumberjack stalker? |
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reboot wrote:Not true in the epidemiologic sense. Severity of impacts are subjective. |
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Lena chita wrote: It is difficult to remain inconspicuous while carrying a double bitted axe |
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Jack Lumber wrote: I only pick up hitchhikers dressed as construction workers or mailmen, occasionally those wearing native american headdress. A mailman wearing Native American headdress? Where, might i ask, the heck do you live? |
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Muscrat wrote: On the Internets, obviously. MP forum specifically. :) |
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"....Is there evidence to support the hitchhikers as a group being more dangerous than people you meet in a bar?" |
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Lena chita wrote: I agree with everything you said 100%. As someone said earlier when you are driving your passenger has a significant amount of control because you are otherwise occupied. So for me hitchhikers are where I draw the line because of that loss of control. I don’t live in fear. I find partners to climb with here, I’ve dated online. Those are risks I’ve decided are acceptable. Could someone get me? Yup. Is my logic flawed? Maybe. |
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Hobo Greg wrote: It pretty much was. Here are the links as requested. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Lee_Sampsonhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/02/03/gary-sampson-formally-sentenced-death/9VSglElGWI4oL0Q0X3ZsdK/amp.html Edit to add: I realize this is exactly the stuff movies are made of and the chances of something like this happening are ridiculously low. For me it was just too close to home. |
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Jack Lumber wrote: I only pick up hitchhikers dressed as construction workers or mailmen, occasionally those wearing native american headdress. So you only give rides to the Village People? |
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Andrew Krajnik wrote: It's fun to stay at the YMCA. Best, OLH |
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I really appreciate all the responses to my question. I’m actually rather surprised by how many “votes” came down on the side of just driving by and not fretting about it. Thank you all for the input. |
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My dual sport bike broke down yesterday deep in the Utah backcountry. And through the kindness of strangers, pieced together rides back to Salt Lake and was able to sleep in my own bed after being on the move for a long, long time. |
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I love the stories of picking up skiers. Really? Picking up privileged white people with 1200$ strapped on their backs? You are heroes. True fucking heroes. |
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Been on both sides of this, as the hiker and the driver. If you're on the 395 this time of year, lots of PCTers, which is a very specific type of hitch hiker. I've given them rides, but probably wouldn't pick up just any vagabond I saw elsewhere. Did pick up a nice native girl in Bishop once at the park who asked for a ride for to place about a mile away. |
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There is a crazy paranoia about hitchhiking in the US. It is safe. Probably no different to walking at night time and climbing a rock face. Yes occasionally shit stuff happens, but if you live your life in fear then that would be terrible. And why are you out climbing cliffs? |
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I'm one to first say, "Trust your instincts." You have no other data than that, and it's a time-sensitive, risky decision. |
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1st - if anyone does not feel safe picking up hitchhikers, they should not be judged for their actions. JAMES: If you have a certain number of violent people running around hitchhiking, [for] the few other people you have running around hitchhiking, the more dangerous it becomes to pick up a hitchhiker. It drove itself out of existence. Basically nobody hitchhikes anymore. … And the real danger was not hitchhiking; it was the fact that you had a certain number of random crazy people who will hurt you. As long as you have the same number of random crazy people you have the same number of violent crimes, and eliminating hitchhiking doesn’t, in my opinion, do anything to change that. So, it was a social change that protects the individual. I mean, I don’t pick up, I wouldn’t pick up hitchhikers either. I’m not nuts. I do that to protect myself. But protecting myself has no value to society.Where Have All the Hitchhikers Gone? A New Freakonomics Radio Podcast |