speed record on the 3rd flatiron

Most of those times have been beaten now.....

josh

So funny you ressurected this thread today! My girlfriend and I climbed this today and about half way up started going for time. We have a super long baseline time to work from, but it's a great route to do for time.

Looking forward to our next attempt!

Jason

J. Thompson wrote:Most of those times have been beaten now..... josh

Pray thee tell... I'd love to hear about that!
I'd like to know who was in the kind of shape to be required to beat those records too... they are pretty polished.
I thought pretty much everyone who was even participating in these speed records was cataloging at the same site. I'd love to know who and when, and I'm sure all of the people who pursue this stuff would too.

Pretty sure I hold the record on the other end. Two three person teams, at night, where 2/3 of the climbers are beginners. ~9 hours plus an assist the next day to retrieve a stuck rope. Jiminy. I think those adventures lead directly to speed attempts (did for me). Good times.

Josh,

If you are referring to my site being out of date, you are correct, though I'd be quite shocked if I didn't know about any Flatiron record, as I seem to be the keeper of such things. To update Tony's post about the unsupported Third Flatiron record, that is currently held by Stefan Griebel in 36:11 or so (I'm embarrassed that I can't find the time right now). Stefan also owns the unsupported time on the First Flaitron (33:05) and the combined time of the First and the Third (48:33). He is the current king of Flatiron speed records, surpassing the previous champions of Dave Mackey (who still owns the supported record on the Third with a fixed rope), Buzz Burrell, and Bill Briggs.

Bill

Bill,

I was refering to Stefans current record times...the ones you just posted...that were not updated on your site.
In my previous post I should replace the word "most" with the word "some".

cheers,

josh

Does anyone know of any records for climbing all numbered (1-5) flatirons in a day?

That was a good read. Some history, some competition, some inspiration.

wwwright.com/climbing/speed…

I call for an update. If I could help I would.

J. Surette wrote:Does anyone know of any records for climbing all numbered (1-5) flatirons in a day?

It's like 2 hrs.

Yes, an update is essential. I've been meaning to work on that for years. I vow to start this weekend.

For the 5 numbered Flatirons, the record is 2:01.

Oh, here's a report about the unsupported Third Flatiron record:

sites.google.com/site/billw…

The record for the 1st is a Buzz at 35' 04".

Does anyone know the specifics for the descent which could be: a) down climb to the SW, b) rappel on a line previously fixed, or c) rappel on ropes carried on the ascent? Down climbing will obviously take more time than rappelling. I presume the trail to the south was used after getting off the formation.

Only if the line was fixed. Even then it depends...
If you carry the rope its faster to down climb...by several minutes.

josh

The record for the First Flatiron is just a touch over 33 minutes and held by Stefan Griebel. He downclimbs from the summit to the ground in less than 90 seconds. That is actually faster than rappelling with a fixed line since the rappel puts you higher up and on the wrong side of the rock. But for most people it is faster to rappel the fixed line, because doing that descent that fast takes some serious practice and a mistake is fatal. Yes, the record times all stick strictly to the trail - no shortcutting.

Bill Wright wrote:The record for the First Flatiron is just a touch over 33 minutes and held by Stefan Griebel. He downclimbs from the summit to the ground in less than 90 seconds.

That is horrifying.

Shawn Mitchell wrote: That is horrifying.

The downclimb in 90 seconds? It's not horrifying, it's fantastic... Horrifying would be just under 3 seconds.
Similarly, any ascent of the rock portion that reaches the top and isn't round-trip to the base of the route is good, not bad!
I'm still in the high 40's, myself. Dave Mackey was in the 33-34 range prior to Stefan taking the record from him, I believe.

Thanx for the correction and information Bill. A down climb of 90 seconds is amazing considering the length, complexity and consequences of a slip at any point. After having done the circuit quickly but not close to the record, I appreciate the combination of CV fitness, climbing skill, and nerve required for the overall time.

I've worked on this before - but after a point it's nice to just sit at the top and not rush back to the car. I'm sure it's been done plenty - but anyone ever 3rd classed/hands free'd the 3rd?

To contrast this thread, here's a post from a 54 year old, average climber who doesn't run at all, does it both up and down on the face (usually by a different route) and usually sits around at the top for 10 minutes taking it all "in," and certainly not trying set a record of any kind: I takes me about 2:30 to do the 3rd, car-to-car (not from the trash can). i.e., ~5 times longer than the record. I'm OK with that. Those fast times are certainly athletic feats!

John Maurer wrote: "but anyone ever 3rd classed/hands free'd the 3rd?

In the eighties, I tried several times to do this, but always ended up copping out by touching a hand to keep my balance, effectively negating a true no hands ascent.

I just reviewed my logs; here is a personal summary of Flatiron scrambling. At one time every one of these were FKT's; now I think just the 1-2-3-4-5 stands, and maybe the Matron.

First: 34:08
Third: 34:48
1 & 3: 53:09
1-2-3: 1:09:16
1-2-3-4-5: 2:01:48
Matron: 51:12
Maiden (roped with Bill): 1:36:13

(Not a record, but give it a try):
Sanitas (bridge to post on top): 16:48