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What happened in J-Tree during 95 shutdown???

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David HH · · CR, CO · Joined May 2006 · Points: 1,695

Plane tickets....check
Housing.....check
week off for climbing.....check
J-Tree open.....?????

If anyone was around during the 1995 government shutdown what happened in J-Tree? Did they just lock the gates? Were you still able to bike or walk in, (yes I have been there several times I understand the distance). I'm not worried about being on my own or services I'm just worried about getting in, any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Tyler Wick · · Genoa, NV · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 85

I'm curious too. Headed to jtree tomorrow AM, hadn't really considered this 'government shutdown' mumbo jumbo. I'm sure you can get into the park regardless.

David HH · · CR, CO · Joined May 2006 · Points: 1,695

Ya, you can probably walk in if they lock the gate but it's a long way to hidden valley from the main entrance and even further from the others.

Roots · · Wherever I am · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 20

Maybe you can contact Nomad Ventures for more info.

Marc Squiddo · · Mountain View, CA · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 15

I was there and can vouch that it sucked. By that I mean that like a dumbass I had the head down with finals and following them had a week trip planned to J-Tree. I drove through the night to find a locked gate and no entrance allowed.

Bummer, spent the time climbing in the Apple Valley area. Great fun back then.

Tyler Smith · · Buena Park · Joined Feb 2011 · Points: 10

Just google it. You will find all the info about the 1995 and 1996 shutdown.

Roger Linfield · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2005 · Points: 10,130

The road running south from Twentynine Palms, eventually connecting to Interstate 10, was kept open. However, signs warned drivers not to stop for hiking or climbing. A friend of mine did stop with his partner for some climbing. A ranger was patrolling, caught them, and gave them a very angry lecture. Maybe he wasn't authorized to issue a ticket (my friend wasn't sure).

The main entrance near the town of Joshua Tree may have been locked.

Marc Squiddo · · Mountain View, CA · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 15
Roger Linfield wrote: The main entrance near the town of Joshua Tree may have been locked.
It was locked, when I tried to get in at least.
David HH · · CR, CO · Joined May 2006 · Points: 1,695

ugh this sucks I've been looking forward to this for so long now. Bishop here I come! Thanks for letting me know there will be no hope I won't even bother trying.

RTM · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2002 · Points: 385

I recall that the military maintained the entrances, turning back people. I also recall just about every climber I knew snuck into the park (on foot) to climb and camp during that time.

Steve Powell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2002 · Points: 915
RTM wrote:I recall that the military maintained the entrances, turning back people. I also recall just about every climber I knew snuck into the park (on foot) to climb and camp during that time.
some friends of mine did just, and got busted.
NDTitanLady · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 300

dont know what you guys are talking about. I went on the thursday April 7th and the park was still open, they let me in and climb... as was the day after. The park never closed.

Alicia Sokolowski · · Brooklyn, NY · Joined Aug 2010 · Points: 1,776
NDTitanLady wrote:dont know what you guys are talking about. I went on the thursday April 7th and the park was still open, they let me in and climb... as was the day after. The park never closed.
Because this time a last minute compromise avoided a government shutdown. Earlier posts are referencing what happened in 1995.
Todd Gordon · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 10,796

The West and East entrances were blocked off;...there were more rangers on duty than if there were not a closure....which seemed funny to me. Two areas saw alot of action;...the area near Indian Head called The Safe Zone....which saw alot of new routes that week....and the Chirriaco Summit Area off of I-10 had a bunch of climbers....when it usually sees little to no climbers.....a few people headed out to the wonderland or queen mountain on foot.....only to be picked up later by rangers patroling in the Park....and escourted out of the Park too. It was over soon, and business was back to normal.....

susan peplow · · Joshua Tree · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 2,756

The crisis has been averted but back in the Clinton years during the government shutdown they actually sent rangers around kicking us out of the park. Individually addressing climbers and campers telling us we needed to leave.

After which was my first and last trip to Chiriaco Summit for climbing.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Southern California
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