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Jungle, on the Aquarius Plateau

Utah > S Central Utah

Description

This is sharply-broken volcanic rock from the late Tertiary (an Osiris Tuff) forming two bands of cliffs, the south or left of the road, the Banshee Wall, Pandora, the Flying Raptor's Area, Upper Canopy Area, and the Upper Jungle. North or right of the road areas are the Lower Jungle, Distant Drum, Planet of the Apes, Pangaea, and The Dark Continent Area (not reachable by the trail but by the road above). There are many excellent, long cracks to be developed. There is also a lot potential for bolted sport routes. As of Sep. 2017, there are well over one hundred eighty routes ranging from 6s to 13s with at least one route at every grade in that range and a few multi-pitch routes as well as a few towers (Kong, Authors, Togo with a register, Dinka, and Kestrel). For those of you wishing to boulder, there is a small bouldering area known as the "Jungle Grotto" down near Pine Lake. These boulders are composed of different and softer but doable rock.

This is an alpine setting (10,400 ft.) and one of the highest (drive up to) crags in the country. Thunder storms can come and go quickly especially in late July and August. The north band of cliffs have two towers, Authors and Jared Diamond, that can provide shelter from the storm. Lighting strikes on the upper reaches of the cliffs can bring rocks down. The closest hospital is in Panguitch 50 minutes distant. The Tropic First Responders have been briefed on the area and a 911 call can be made from the parking areas. Give them the area and route you need help on to speed (1.5 hr.s) the stokes stretcher to you.

CAMPING:  primitive campground near Pine Lake or many off-road options right near the crag are available (see topo below).

FOOD: Can best be purchased at Ruby's Inn: there's a grocery store, and - BONUS - a full range buffet in the restaurant.

SPIRITS: Are hard to come by in the "Empire of Utah"... There is a full State liquor store in Panguitch (1 hour, 30 minutes), or a limited State liquor store at Ruby's. Beer here is "near beer" so come prepared, stock up before you cross the state line.

BOULDERING: Check out the "Jungle Grotto" but DO NOT MISS the lines under "Jared Diamond Tower" found in the "Distant Drum Area". There are many FAs to be had in both areas!

NOTABLE FLORA AND FAUNA: Subalpine Firs and Bristlecone Pines (a.k.a. Foxtail Pines locally) as well as Black Bears, Mountain Lions, Mule Deer, Elk, Marmots, Pikas, Black Rosy Finches, Magnificent Hummingbirds, Blue (Dusky) Grouse, Swifts, many species of Owls, most of the raptors, including the Bald Eagle, Golden Eagle, California Condor and the Peregrine Falcon to name but a few.

ROCK QUALITY: There are some really great quality rock sections to this crag and some loose parts, as well. Be advised of the possibility of rock fall from high up. Blocks have weathered away from the main material (temperatures can range between 90 degrees F. and -60 degrees F.) and precariously await their transition from potential to kinetic energy.

Interestingly, there was a debate regarding the exact origin of the material we climb. Some believed the crags were formed by volcanic ash dropping out of the sky over a long period of time; a caldera many miles away being the source of the activity. Others suggest the volcanism to be local and that this is a lava flow or perhaps an old plug. Recently Dr. Jessica Ball, a volcanologist has given the definitive answer.

Cutting a cross-section and using a microscope to examine the pattern and composition of crystals has yet to be done. However, Dr. Ball found that the nicely formed hexagonal biotites which are easily seen were the tell. She believes that about 23 million years ago a violent pyroclastic eruption occurred from what is now called Monroe Peak some 50 miles north. This eruption sent "dense flowing ash" across the area in layer after layer. So, this densely-welded ash flow tuff is in fact what we are climbing. Examining the best visual display of geology on site can be done in the Lower Jungle on the north-facing route called "Knuckle Draggers Needed." There's at least 6 to 7 layers exposed and there is a paper, if not a thesis or dissertation here or down in "Pangaea" where a "hackle" has attracted much attention (see photos). A visual/hand lens inspection seems to reveal abundant biotite hexagons, quartz, sanidine, and amphibole. In any event, there is good climbing to be had.

ROUTES: Due to the nature of the rock, bolt placements may not always coincide with your views. Judicious placements have been set, with safety being the primary concern. What may appear to be a perfect, sheer face, may actually bear a hollow, brittle base. Among the many things that are considered while setting, the "hammer-hollow" test has been determined as the most measurable way to rule out poor rock quality. While climbing please understand that routes may not follow a direct path and anchors may be placed prior to the top of a crag, all of which keeps everybody safer. Route setters should use camouflaged hangers, chains or shuts, and 3/8th" X 3" bolts seem to work best though occasionally we use the 3.5" long for the lesser quality rock. EDIT: As you may well be aware, bolts, hangers, and how they are placed are all undergoing a metamorphosis. So stainless and 1/2" may be all you can find these days. In any event, avoid mixing bolt/hanger metals. Three to four inch depth is still plenty for the vast majority of rock here and some really good sections can go shorter.

ETHICS: My once conservative purest standard has softened. The Jungle and my old age have schooled me. There are a few lines here with bolts and cracks side by side. In the beginning we would pick the best clean trad lines. No problems here going ground up. Then we also saw good trad lines that would need cleaning. Sometimes we found that the material in the cracks was endless and deceptively unstable. After scouring out a place for a couple of pieces, we would stand on aid and do more crack cleaning only to have our pro move or fail in the yet to be reached good rock. So then came a bolt to complete the ground up cleaning and hopes that the face to the left or right would work out into a sport alternative. Or, we thought the crack would never clean up and remain unsafe and the face moves were promising and nearby. After a fall with the drill and a small hole in my shoulder I have concluded the following: 1) Due to the extreme weathering that goes on here some routes are best set from the top down. Clean the line, establish the solid stances, mark out the clips remembering those shorter folks, and place bolts based on how good the rock is on this particular line. This also keeps your belayer happy. Many belays are from a narrow trail with few to no options for protection while the leader is cleaning on a ground up campaign. There are some very large blocks that often need removing. This type of top down plotting identifies future weathering issues and establishes a safe and lasting route. 2) If the line is clean and on good rock to begin with, set it from the bottom up using camouflaged hardware. The locals love to site-in the new scope on the bright and shiny hangers. Also, please avoid crowding routes together here. There is so much rock here that one need not look far to find an isolated spot for an awesome new route. So before judging a line with a crack and a bolt, know how much cleaning work sometimes had to go into getting the route climbable. Avoid my mistakes by just doing the work from the top down and create a durable, safe route without bolts and cracks together.

ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS: Stay on trail, leave clean campsites with well doused fire pits, crags without any trash or shit, drive only on roads, double tracks, and please do not forge into a new spot in the forest. Continued access depends on you!

WEATHER: Thunderstorms can be a problem but the rock dries out fast... not so much the road. If windy head deep into the "Lower Jungle" or even further into the "Distant Drum Area" and you can climb in calm albeit with the trees screaming above. There is more shade in the morning in the Upper Jungle, Upper Canopy, and Flying Raptor's Areas though by 11:00+ am or so it grows hot... move into the north facing routes in the "Lower Jungle" or "Distant Drum Area" or even further into the "Planet of the Apes or Pangaea Areas" where many fine routes can be found in shade or soon to become shady. These areas are the the most protected from the sun. The fall season may be the most pristine time to climb here and can last late into October and in 2012 we were climbing in early November.

WHAT TO BRING: In terms of gear, a set of small to medium wires, at least a set of double 00 Metolious through BD 5s and perhaps one 6. Also, BD 4s are needed in threes on some of the classics. Bring four shoulder length and two five ft. runners along with a dozen QDs. Always have a light weight rain jacket and perhaps rain pants along. Speaking of clothing, shorts are a mistake! Long pants in any color but black (the flies here LOVE black) with a high top approach boot is recommended. Firewood is not a problem but thunderstorms are, so, bring the rain fly. Water is around in creeks on the drive up or in the Pine Lake Campground. Please bring a shovel to bury your shit! Wear a helmet unless you are really confident and 60 meter ropes (fat ropes are safer due to the sharp edges) will suffice on almost all of the routes. When you get back home please leave comments and ratings on what you did.

ROAD CONDITIONS: On occasions a flash flood will take out the road just above the Pine Lake Campground. There is a back way in. Take the forest service road out of Widtsoe then make a sharp right at the BIG intersection back to the Jungle and "drop in." High clearance!

SHORT CUTS: To more quickly access some of those newer quality routes established far out in the Distant Drum Area or even farther out into the expansive Planet of the Apes Area, and Pangaea Areas, check the beta photos on those area's cover pages. Here you find mentioned a down chute at the interface between two of these remote Areas. Though not dog friendly, it is an easy (5.4) way to reach the trail below where many terrific new lines are within a short walk. The chute should be approached as having the possibility of rockfall. Therefore, use the hardware provided on the walls and avoid the loose floor. Travel down in pairs staying close together making sure nobody else is in the bowling rock-ball funnel. Between the small/old cell tower on the east side of the road and the parking spot for the Dark Continent Area is a wood cairn marking a small double tract that leads east to a campsite and another down. There is a short zip line from a tree to an anchor on the face of an attached tower. Here two 60 meter ropes gets you to the end of Pangaea. You can take your pack down and stash it in the many overhanging dry areas making the exit and next day approach even more enjoyable. Or, if you are worried about food smells attracting vermin and/or bears, hang the pack off any one of the many routes lower bolts. In the frontier between the Lower Jungle and the Distant Drum Area Authors Tower is a great option for saving effort. Boulder up the overhanging crack and place a high piece then lower down. Haul up your packs and tie them off. The Tower keeps the weather off and the roosting owls high up will keep the rodents away. Then further down in the Planet of the Apes there are caves to do the same. In the Pangaea Area a good option is to hang packs behind Dark Tower. People are not expected to be an issue here.

When arriving at a chain anchor, rather than untieing, threading, and retieing simply open the quick link and put your rope through. With as few climbers visiting the Jungle, this will be fine. If you are working your line then use your own gear. Always have a 3/8th quick-link to replace the seldom seen worn hardware.

If you worry about the rain drops falling from the cloud symbols above...well...don't. Set a good tent with a rain fly, stash some near by fire fuel under a tree and leave early in the morning to climb. A shower may show up around noon and most likely be gone by 2:30 pm. Then climb as long as you like. There are seven campsites complete with fire rings, sitting stumps, and tent sites very near the crag for quick weather exits.

Tips, Concerns, and Gifts

There are four new areas that should be described in the opening, however, due to new word count max.s, they will be mentioned here. All in generally the same geographic area and each one facing a different cardinal direction (see approach maps as well as this cover page "Directions" map) these areas add a new dimension to the Jungle.  Off of USFS Rd. 021 and only 4 miles north of the Lower Jungle parking area, The Research Station is the most southerly of the three and faces SE.  Around the cliffs corner is a long stretch of varied possibilities in the Air Strip.  This area faces west.  Then the real gem with the best rock in the Jungle is the most northerly of all areas and faces south is called Shangri La.  There was a pristine campsite and trail here that has recently been soiled a bit by the addition of cows.  Long hard lines exist here.  And lastly, a new area to be only mentioned in the upcoming guide book.

More tips:  Go slow reaching these new areas in that the rocky road can bruise a tire.  Two wheel drives have been here.

                  Check with USFS for current campfire regulations...do not mention climbing but camping.

Concerns:  Fires are scary in these dry conditions!  Avoid poorly managed campfires, target shooting, and cigarettes not snuffed. 

                   

Gifts:          Looking for an old stokes stretcher to stash in the J in case we climbers need to haul our selves out to where first

                   responders  can take over.  If anybody has a way to to help here we all would be appreciative.  Thanks!

Getting There

If you are coming from the north or east and Goggle Maps or some such BS directs you another way in, like to Widsoe, (this is the emergency exit) then you are making a mistake! Follow the directions below from which ever direction you travel from. You SLC craggers might consider this route down. I think it is the fastest as well as the most scenic. Take 15 south to Scipo. Then 50 to 260 toward Aurora (a speed trap). South of town there is a fork in the road. No matter what the sign says, go right on the unsigned Interchange Rd. that takes you directly to HW70. South here to HW89 and through Panguitch. Otherwise, everyone should take UT Highway 12 toward Bryce Canyon National Park; at BCNP junction, turn northeast onto Highway 22 (toward Antimony and note the unreasonable but enforced speed limit of 40mph); turn southeast onto Forest Service road 132 toward Pine Lake for 5.2 miles; continue past first exit toward Pine Lake and look for a LEFT TURN to Powell Point, (if you go straight you end up in the campground); soon you will see a great deal of white rocks, otherwise known as limestone indicating this alpine setting was once a seabed, continue on this road (132) for 5.9 miles until Powell Point jeep trail on right(143); Go PAST this jeep trail, setting odometer again and travel 1.9 miles, again, passing Powell Point jeep trail and PAST THE UPPER JUNGLE SCREE FIELD (looks like a single-car pullout on a hairpin turn) to the "Lower Jungle" et al. parking areas on right, or around the corner and up the road 100 meters to the "Upper Jungle" and "Upper Canopy" parking area where the approach trail leads DOWN to the climbs base trail (well marked). Just up through the switchbacks are the parking areas for the distant Upper Canopy lines and the Flying Raptors Area. Short approaches can be found at these parking areas to: 1) Lower Jungle, Distant Drum and depending on your athleticism, the Planet of the Apes Area and even farther to Pangaea from the northern/lower parking location and 2) from the southern/upper parking area to the Upper Jungle and some of the Upper Canopy areas. Although the more northerly areas, i.e. the northern part of the Distant Drum Area, the Planet of the Apes Area and to be sure, Pangaea and The Dark Continent Areas have shorter approaches from above on the plateau (see topos and descriptions within each area). The Research Station, The Air Strip, Shangri La, Pandora and The Banshee Wall all require a little longer drive past the Lower Jungle parking area, though shorter drive from the  Dark Continent Area parking area. See topos on the areas cover pages.  Click Topo key below pic.

Other Things to Do

Just down the road 1.9 miles is a 4 mile jeep trail that finishes as one mile of single track and a non-technical but great views mountain bike ride...about 10 miles in and out. Very nice! Also, father down and behind Pine Lake is the Henderson Canyon ride that will take you to the town of Tropic. About 10 miles of single track to dirt road that lasts for about 5 miles. A super trail in the upper section! This can be shuttled to skip the road. The fishing at Pine Lake is not bad but higher up, above the Jungle, are many small lakes thick with trout (mostly Brook, though a splattering of other species can also be caught). For those of us into fossils, you need not go far! Between the Powell Point Rd. and the small grassy meadow on the south side of the rd. just before you get to the crag you can see washed and smooth cobbles. Walk to the edge (east) and you can find 330 million year old invertebrate fossils such as sponges, bivalves, brachiopods, and corals to name but a few. These washed here interestingly from other cragging areas such as the Virgin River Gorge and Ibex many years earlier when those areas were higher and the Jungle was lower.

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North faces in the Jungle are exceptionally colorful with many species of lichens. This route is in the Lower Jungle and is called Daniel Quinn. <br>
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Boissal Photo.
[Hide Photo] North faces in the Jungle are exceptionally colorful with many species of lichens. This route is in the Lower Jungle and is called Daniel Quinn. Boissal Photo.
Old Man Rosco- Relaxing in the Jungle.
[Hide Photo] Old Man Rosco- Relaxing in the Jungle.
 Lower Jungle cliffs
[Hide Photo] Lower Jungle cliffs
This is a beautiful arete  that goes at 12c and is known as Bagheera
[Hide Photo] This is a beautiful arete that goes at 12c and is known as Bagheera
Welcome to the Jungle
[Hide Photo] Welcome to the Jungle
The beautiful Pine Lake on the way to the Jungle (seen on the horizon on the high right). 
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By David Crane.
[Hide Photo] The beautiful Pine Lake on the way to the Jungle (seen on the horizon on the high right). By David Crane.
The shadow people LOVED visiting Powell Point on the Aquarius Plateau, after an awesome day of climbing at the Upper, and Lower Jungle. : )
[Hide Photo] The shadow people LOVED visiting Powell Point on the Aquarius Plateau, after an awesome day of climbing at the Upper, and Lower Jungle. : )
The Lower Jungle.
[Hide Photo] The Lower Jungle.
A view from our campsite.  This is classic Jungle...
[Hide Photo] A view from our campsite. This is classic Jungle...
Jungle Topo & Key
[Hide Photo] Jungle Topo & Key
A small portion of the the Upper Jungle
[Hide Photo] A small portion of the the Upper Jungle
After the drought and before the snows, Deadly Amanitas were abundant.  Gatherers beware!  There is a reason for the name!
[Hide Photo] After the drought and before the snows, Deadly Amanitas were abundant. Gatherers beware! There is a reason for the name!

Comments [Hide ALL Comments]

[Hide Comment] I really enjoyed this gem of an area, with fun and quality routes of many grades, great views and camping. The grades are pretty right on. New routes going up as I write. Check it out! Wear your helmet! Thanks Roy! Onsight on you crazy monkeys... Jul 6, 2011
Nunya Business
Your Mom
[Hide Comment] Rock quality is awesome? Rhyolite, the crumbly version of Basalt.......... Feb 29, 2012
Boissal .
Small Lake, UT
[Hide Comment] I found the rock to be more friendly than basalt... none of that razor-sharp tip-destroying nonsense. As for the crumbling, well, it makes for interesting climbing. I'll tip-toe lightly at the Jungle vs. pull on greasy jugs anytime. Feb 29, 2012
[Hide Comment] Yep! The quality varies. Ross states the rock is "perfect" on his route "Dr. Livingstone I Presume" and I put up a route called "Flaky Chimp" that is...well...crumbly, but still good enough to have fun on. On another one of the better climbs, "Missing Link," the first twelve feet or so is a little loose and then becomes really good for the next seventy feet! The jams at the top are solid, smooth, perfect hands to exit. Pick and choose your climbs here and you can find some great routes with really quality rock. Mar 5, 2012
[Hide Comment] Rhyolite is the crumbly version of basalt??? No! Rhyolite is an extrusive igneous rock, same as basalt - the difference between them is that rhyolite has high silica content, basalt has low silica. The significance of this for "crumbliness"? Zero. Rhyolite, in fact, is the extrusive counterpart (same mineralogic makeup) as granite. Of course, the degree of weathering - that can vary in any rock type and between and within climbing areas. You can find places (northern Rockies, Sierras, etc. - not the Jungle) where there is deteriorated weathered granite that is so crumbly it falls apart when you grab it - does that mean granite is crap? Obviously not - you have to look at the individual situation. And the comments from people who have been to the Jungle (including me) are that the rock is pretty darn nice!

Sorry to belabor the geology, I wanted to clear up the unconstructive comment from someone who has clearly never been there.
Look, if you don't like the rock quality at the Jungle, you better stick to climbing on plastic. Mar 15, 2012
Nunya Business
Your Mom
[Hide Comment] Never been there huh?

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I stand by my statement, I've never spent so many hours cleaning a single route. After 10 hours of hammering I still didn't feel the route was clean. There are some areas of the jungle that have less than stellar rock, but other areas are solid. It's OK, people will still visit this area and enjoy themselves immensely. Mar 17, 2012
Stan Pitcher
SLC, UT
[Hide Comment] Thanks for all your hard work Roy! We really enjoyed our visit there and it was great to meet you and your wife! May 22, 2012
[Hide Comment] A BIG thank you to Roy Suggett for all the hard work that went into the creation of such a fine climbing area. We really enjoyed the both the trad, and sport climbs we did at the upper, and lower Jungle. After climbing we hiked to Powell Point, which was beautiful, and even spent some time camping & kayaking at Pine Lake. It made our weekend trip to your neck of the woods very worthwhile. Great memories- Thanks again! May 31, 2012
[Hide Comment] Big Kudos to Roy and his fantastic little hidden world! We had a great time enjoying the Jungle this past week. Thanks Roy for the Subaru guidance on the descent of Barney Top! Wouldn't have done it without you! Can't wait to come back again, keep up the great work! Jul 9, 2012
[Hide Comment] "temperatures can and do regularly range between 90 degrees F. and -60 degrees F."

Really? regularly -60F? Jun 17, 2013
[Hide Comment] Yep! Just two years ago Bryce Canyon National Park at less than 8000 ft. recorded a -35 F. And the cell towers also confirm these extreme temp.s which are nearer the Jungle. Using common sense and a broad, long range time frame for geology, which was the focus of my point, if a -60 F. happens once a decade, well that's pretty regular for a rock. But I will change the word to "can" if that helps.

PS 12/6/13 nearby Panguitch (4400 ft. lower) recorded a -36 F. Jun 19, 2013
[Hide Comment] I don't see this rock as rhyolite. It appears to me more as a dacite and andesite mix. The rotten stuff with big crystals that is found at the base of the Jungle cliffs seems to be dacite. The more solid and fine-grained rock in the middle and top looks like andesite with a weathered patina on the surface.

I collected a couple of samples and will query my geologist colleagues for confirmation. Jun 28, 2013
[Hide Comment] I agree. Read above under "Rock Quality" Jun 29, 2013
[Hide Comment] This is an exceptionally user-friendly area. Trails are well-groomed and cairned and the protection is generally excellent for both sport and trad climbs. Were it closer to an urban area, the Jungle would be very popular. It is quite similar in character to the Uintas, but much less crowded and with poorer-quality rock. Jul 1, 2013
j mo
n az
[Hide Comment] Bravo to Roy for his labor of love, creating this truly special place... Big climbs. Scary climbs. Bolted gentle climbs or hair raising routes, whatever floats your boat, it is here, up high in the sky. Be sure to walk lower jungle all the way through distant drum. Marvel at king kong. Just seeing that line made my palms sweat! Thanks Roy et al. Jul 28, 2013
[Hide Comment] I was here early on (Roy and I set up Climbers in the Mist). And now I've just returned from a three day adventure here with wife, Roy, and Phyllis. I can hardly believe there are almost 100 routes now. Aug 9, 2013
Boissal .
Small Lake, UT
[Hide Comment] Andesite. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andesite
The picture of the pillar in Slovakia looks a lot like a mossy Jungle. I'd say your assessment of the rock's nature is spot on. Jun 3, 2014
jakobi
moab, utah
[Hide Comment] My girlfriend and I were fortunate to get a personal tour of the Jungle by Roy and Phyllis Suggett this week. The work they've put into developing a great crag for others to enjoy is incredible and I'd like to say thanks for their effort and that of all the others that have contributed to what is one of my new favorite crags. Jun 26, 2014
Jerome Sharpe
Wanship, UT
[Hide Comment] Roy--Safe to assume that what's on MP is the only guide available? Thanks Dec 17, 2014
justa beater
sandy utah
[Hide Comment] Hey Roy what would you think about the weather around the middle of may...still sketchy, should I wait till later in the season? Got a good sized group that wants to go down, some have kids, dogs ect... just don't want to get all the way there only to find out the weather is crappy, any info would be appreciated Apr 21, 2015
Jon M
Southern Nevada
[Hide Comment] Just got back from the Jungle, brought some students to there to teach lead climbing. We hit, Pangea, Lower Jungle, Distant Drums, and Flying Raptors Area (thanks for the suggestion Roy), all awesome! Great areas with a few good moderates but it really shines if you are a 5.10 and up climber. I will definitely be back. Jul 17, 2015
[Hide Comment] Some kind soul(s) built a new campsite at the hair pin turn "under" the Upper Jungle walls and talus. Thanks. Also, some folks left a clean camp complete with fire wood and beer down near where I often reside. Again, thank you. I look forward to trying the Moab micro brew.

(edit 8/16/16) Some ass tore down the exquisite rock work (see comment above) forming a wind break and built in oven/fire place that formed a beautiful arch and was well designed. USFS? Why? Jul 23, 2016
[Hide Comment] I found this place to be a quite little gem with a little of everything. Great climbing no crowds and a ton of fun..If you are in the area it's a must do.. Sep 10, 2017
Maxwell McCollum
Bellingham, Wa.
[Hide Comment] I was very impressed with the climbing here! The Lower Jungle is at-most a 5 minute walk from the car, with bountiful routes in an amazing alpine setting. Huge thanks to Roy, who went out of his way to introduce himself to us at the crag, as well as give us great camping and climbing beta. I am definitely going back the next chance that I have. Jul 4, 2018
Bolting Karen
La Sal, UT
[Hide Comment] What a spectacular area. Fun climbing on either great or pretty good rock. Personally, love a little choss here and there. Had a great weekend up here with some friends from Moab. Temps were amazing, routes were well done and being the only ones at the crag was great. Ran into Roy, who is super friendly and ready to let you know anything you could want to know about the area. BTW, Roy, we left you a rope under the Jared Diamond tower to use as you need it. Just fantastic. Don't get scared off by the storms in the summer! climb a bit in the morning, take a couple hour break during the rain and rock drying, and enjoy an evening session. Stellar!!! Jul 30, 2018
Mike F
Arden, NC
[Hide Comment] Can't say enough good things about the beauty, setting, and route quality of this place. The cherry on top is Roy and all the work he's done up there, it's astounding. Can't wait to go back. Aug 5, 2018
Ben ZH
Flagstaff AZ
[Hide Comment] I checked this place out last summer for a few days. The camping is great. The place is remote and serene. There’s some cool movement on the routes here but I thought every route I climbed was overhyped on quality. Rock’s far from bomber. Personally, not a destination, but a cool place to check out if your passing through or in the vicinity. Jun 3, 2019
[Hide Comment] I'm not sure why no one has commented on the overview map of the area. To find the Dark Continent: it is not as shown. The written description makes more sense, but since it is recommended you reset your odometer, the actual mileage would be helpful here. Just saying. Here's the thing: if you get to road 1458, you have gone too far. Road 315 looks like the right place on the map, but that just reflects an hour of frustration driving around. Overall, the area is a relief from the hot summer and the locals are clearly psyched on their lucky discovery. Thanks for developing the routes. Jul 20, 2019
Gordon Larsen
St. George, UT
[Hide Comment] I have been wanting to get up to the Jungle and climb for several years now. Finally made it this week. I found the views and climbing to be awesome. The camping was great. Kudos to the crew who have been putting up the routes. What a fantastic option for climbing during the summer in solitude. Jul 24, 2019
[Hide Comment] OK Roy, Biosall: A friend of mine is asking about the crack circuit for this area. He's looking for your list. Jul 31, 2019
Jon M
Southern Nevada
[Hide Comment] Its been a couple years since I've been up to the Aquarius, sad to see some one tore down the oven me and my students built.

It was a cold bivy but great as always. Its such a special place, thanks for all the new development up there! Oct 13, 2019
Paolo Botta
Cuneo
[Hide Comment] Is there a way of hiking in from the 144? Do we have to go around the mountains if coming from Escalante? It looks like it would be less than a mile on google maps but the satellite images make it look quite steep as well... Any info is greatly appreciated :) Apr 16, 2020
Boissal .
Small Lake, UT
[Hide Comment] I'm sure the mayor will weigh in shortly but my experience with any off-trail hiking down there is that it involves a lot of horrendously unstable talus OR very steep terrain which alternates unconsolidated dirt and choss bands which form steps a few feet tall. Looks like the closest 144 comes from the rim is about 1200' vertical, that would be a painful slog. Driving around is definitely going to be faster. Apr 17, 2020
JT Moree
Scottsdale, AZ
[Hide Comment] We also really enjoyed this area. Here at the end of May. Thank you Roy for all of the great beta that helped us figure out where we were going and what to climb. May 28, 2020
KrisG
Red Rock, NV
[Hide Comment] Wow! What a fantastic area! Partner and I spent 4-July weekend here and only saw three other climber duos. Not sure if that's normal or Coronavirus fueled. Thanks to all the developers for your hard work and going several extra miles to provide additional helpful beta for access, trails, parking, camping, geology, etc.! It's clear from the enthusiasm in the descriptions that there is some real love for this place. And it is most definitely warranted. Fun and varied climbing in a remote, alpine-feeling setting without the typically-requisite approaches?! Car to crag in 10 minutes at over 10k ft elevation?! Yes, please!
Some comments: given the density of descriptions for the areas, they can be somewhat confusing. My partner and I found an abundance of left vs right ambiguities and in some cases inversions. Additionally, some hike distances, route lengths, and bolt counts were off. And directing by way of terms like wood piles and man-made clearings adds further ambiguity in an area full of them. This was not too big of deal once learned, but added some extra confusion for a first-timer. Just don't get too bogged down in the overly-thorough descriptions.
Also, it's awesome to have campsites right at the approach trailhead for some crags, but only if you get that site. It's kinda awkward to park at someone else's campsite that barely fits their cars and then walk through their site to the "down-chute" approach. We didn't actually use any of the down-chute/rappel approaches, but largely because we questioned how we would get back out. Maybe we're just obtuse, but while the description was pretty clear how to get down these approaches to the crags, it was not clear how to get back out. Just a first-timers experience, really a great place to visit and climb! Jul 7, 2020
[Hide Comment] Whoever is carving directional arrows into trees and cutting down trees at the crags, Please Stop!!!! Its bad enough that there are an excessive amount of cairns all over the place but to actually carve arrows into trees and be cutting them down for NO good reason is horrible. I hope no guide ever comes out for this place, we came here 6-7 years ago, there was no one there which is just the way we like it. SO quiet but how things have changed, last week people lots of people. Its a shame that climbers feel the need to exploit areas because all that does is ruin them and highly impact those natural environments. So please climbers don't blab about your favorite climbing areas, stop instagraming pictures of you at your favorite crag or on a tower, stop yelling, turn off your music, don't throw your pack down on plants, consider your impacts on the environment. Jul 18, 2020
Gary Savage
Las Vegas, NV
[Hide Comment] Is it possible to get an RV to Pine lake? Is there cell reception there? Jun 27, 2021
[Hide Comment] Yes on the RV not sure on cell, no problem at the jungle proper Jun 28, 2021
[Hide Comment] I'm sure the road conditions vary but I wouldn't take a 2wd passenger car up here unless I really had to. They must grade it every now and then to get equipment up to the radio towers but heavy ATV traffic seems to tear it up pretty good, and as stated a heavy rain will wash debris over the lower section. The road is currently really rocky, loose and steep, and often there aren't places to pass oncoming traffic so a trailer or big RV wouldn't be a great idea either. Lots of sharp rocks so you better have good tires. I was in 4-low much of the time so I could crawl over the rocks and not get bounced around too much. It's worth the abuse once you're up there though. Jul 7, 2021
[Hide Comment] This area is incredible. Go slow on the road and the drive is worth it. The descriptions and beta are pretty spot on. All climbs protect well with great bolting and beautiful splitters. Some fantastic climbs. Really glad to have found this place. Jul 20, 2021
[Hide Comment] As of 9/4, we made it up to the Research Station/Air Strip/Shangri-La area with relatively little fuss in an AWD Rav-4, using confidence through the puddles and deliberate driving on the upper portion of FS132. We approached from the Escalante side on the delightfully (and surprisingly, based on previous comments) well-maintained FS17 until it intersected with FS132. Would highly recommend that approach, at least for those looking to explore the aforementioned northern areas. Wish we had more than a day, thanks to the developers for opening up these rad areas! Will certainly be back for a longer stay in the future Sep 5, 2021
[Hide Comment] A bit more detail on approaching from the north on FS132: It's straightforward for a 4wd truck but I would personally NOT take a crossover or standard climber van in that way. Jun 27, 2022