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Sep 6, 2012
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DallinG wrote:
livingsocial.com/cities/1787-s... Isn't this lovely. Next thing you know there will be a toll booth at the base. Terrible on so many levels.


sooooo lame that this is becoming the norm.

the guy who made this video is a massive douche, all his other videos are equally full of feel good happy "life is good" bullshit.
Keenan Waeschle
From Bozeman, MT
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Sep 6, 2012
is that guy selling rope jumps an accredited guide? bearbreeder
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Sep 6, 2012
Keenan Waeschle wrote:
the guy who made this video is a massive douche, all his other videos are equally full of feel good happy "life is good" bullshit.


such a positive outlook on life ya douche...
RockyMtnTed
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Sep 6, 2012
on top of the RNWF June 2012
I have a positive life outlook, but I realize that life isn't 24/7 cute college co-eds in bikinis and shitty music. (I go to MSU Brozeman though, so there might be more titties in other places) Keenan Waeschle
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Sep 6, 2012
Keenan Waeschle wrote:
sooooo lame that this is becoming the norm. the guy who made this video is a massive douche, all his other videos are equally full of feel good happy "life is good" bullshit.


NorCalNomad
From San Francisco
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Sep 7, 2012
Matt H- wrote:
But there are probably (hundreds) maybe even a (few thousand) climbers/people with equipment who know how to set this up and would likely try it.

Oh, I dont know about that. Maybe a thousand in the entire world; but rope swings are extremely complicated rigging jobs. In reality, you are basically building a device that is designed to do something the gear you are using is not designed to be used for. I would envision a fraction of a percent of climbers truly know how to safely build a swing like that. Oh, and the rigger of this swing not part of the .1% either, as Petzl made clear on their Facebook post where they called him out.

I sure hope we dont get a bunch of YouTubers going out there trying to rig swings like this. Even when you know what you are doing, building a swing like that is extremely risky.
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Sep 7, 2012
on top of the RNWF June 2012
Ranar wrote:



hahahah, if you met me you'd know that I'm the polar opposite of a emo kid. I just can't stand this guy's videos. they're so fake and almost overflowing with massive piles of horseshit.
Keenan Waeschle
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Sep 7, 2012
Out of the blue.  Photo by Mike W.
The number of bolts they added shows they didn't know what they were doing. Even though there is some free fall at the beginning of the swing, the loads are pretty small. If I recall, there were five bolts included in their anchor. Greg D
From Here
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Sep 7, 2012
Hell yeahhhh! Love it! Back in the good ole days this was 100% cool. I still cant let climbing and the stuff that goes with it get sucked in by the masses and the "access freaks" Rob Lipinski
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Sep 7, 2012
Corona Arch is not on BLM land. It is owned by the State of Utah. It is a School lands trust parcel, the same as the piece of property at the base of Castleton Tower that was purchased by the Accessfund.
They do not give a shit about what happens there and no permit is needed. I have been contacted several times this season to rig the thing for TV shows. I have politely told each to toss off.
Chuck James is at the helm of "safety Nuts", great. None of the staff are certified anything.
cdec
From SLC and Moab, ut
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Sep 7, 2012
S Denny you sir are also an idiot. If you call no climbing management plan and a total clampdown "working fine"
Currently there is a total ban on any new fixed protection, the revocation of Desert Highlights permits to guide canyoneering in the park and a moratorium on any new commercial climbing or guiding permits. Recreational climbing contiues unfettered however the options for the new climbing managment plan include permitting and possible daily limitations on RECREATIONAL climbers at numbers as few as 12 per day.
cdec
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Sep 7, 2012
Half dome Cables
Keenan Waeschle wrote:
hahahah, if you met me you'd know that I'm the polar opposite of a emo kid. I just can't stand this guy's videos. they're so fake and almost overflowing with massive piles of horseshit.


if you can't stand his videos, then don't watch them. simple
Jan Tarculas
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Red Rock, Cannibal crag
How many arches are protected from rope scarring/bolting? Most, I think.

How many arches are this big and, well, unique? Not many that I've seen, unfortunately.

Where does the more that rope people can't swing and rappel off arches come from? This may be the best point for the anti/not happy crowd, depending on when the arch was first bolted and how many canyoneers/climbers/etc had the opportunity to bolt and decided not to based on ethical considerations. Similar to bolting a classic trad route for mere convenience, it could be construed as unethical.

After actually reading some opinions on it I tend to think the non-bolted route is best long term. My first reaction to hearing it was bolted was "wtf!?" which was quickly replaced by thoughts of using those anchors :) I did rappel off it, probably didn't help the grooves. Don't feel particularly good about it. Live and learn.

  • *Hopefully the fad passes**
OldManRiver
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Out of the blue.  Photo by Mike W.
Greg D wrote:
The number of bolts they added shows they didn't know what they were doing. Even though there is some free fall at the beginning of the swing, the loads are pretty small. If I recall, there were five bolts included in their anchor.



You're an asshole.
Greg D
From Here
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Feb 2, 2013
the man was smart
sltrib.com/sltrib/news/5575045...

shut down for commercial use already, the 200$ a jump gravy train is over
T Roper
From VA,NM,UT,CT,MA
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Feb 2, 2013
pretty sure that article says that commercial use was shut down. no more permits granted to businesses to do it because it would put some liability on the state. Didn't read anything about private parties not being allowed to go do it...taking their lives into their own hands. H..
From Washingtonville NY
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Ryan A. Ray wrote:
I have been visiting and climbing in the Moab region for many years now. When I did first come, you could expect solitude just about everywhere you went to climb. Now the Moab region is so incredibly popular that it has become increasingly more important for us to tread lightly. The more attention we get...the more rules they make. Thats not a good thing for us as climbers and outdoor enthusiasts. I fear it wont be long before the days of freedom on BLM land is gone or severely restricted.


Let's go back to the disease, and not waste any more time focusing on the symptoms. Comes down to TOO MANY PEOPLE. Not to steer the discussion towards socialized medicine, but free vasectomies for every motherfucker who wanted one would go a long way in contributing to the solution of not only access issues but also the next 50 biggest problems in the world today. Oh yeah, free birth control pills too.
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Eric Krantz wrote:
Let's go back to the disease, and not waste any more time focusing on the symptoms. Comes down to TOO MANY PEOPLE. Not to steer the discussion towards socialized medicine, but free vasectomies for every motherfucker who wanted one would go a long way in contributing to the solution of not only access issues but also the next 50 biggest problems in the world today. Oh yeah, free birth control pills too.


"You're not sitting in traffic you are traffic."
Alex Whitman
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Feb 2, 2013
Mashers Tower
i feel bad for the people that were there just trying to check out some cool scenery

only thing missing is some jet skis
Cornelius Jefferson
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Feb 2, 2013
TRmasta wrote:
sltrib.com/sltrib/news/5575045... shut down for commercial use already, the 200$ a jump gravy train is over

Probably for the best. That was a lawsuit waiting to happen. If a client got injured, any newly graduated plaintiff attorney could win a settlement. The defense would get destroyed for a number of reasons.
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From Hawaii
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Feb 2, 2013
Climbing at Morro Anhangava in Southern Brasil.  (...
Out of curiosity, is this the arch that's just off Wall Street (maybe a 20min walk from the last campground there)? If so, wow, that's a beautiful area. Not sure I'd want it infested with screaming people anyway.

But damn that's a huge swing. I didn't even think one could climb it when I was there, let alone swing off it.

Anyone see the human slingshot that they have at the end of that video, too? WTF?
GMBurns
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Feb 2, 2013
GMBurns wrote:
Out of curiosity, is this the arch that's just off Wall Street (maybe a 20min walk from the last campground there)? If so, wow, that's a beautiful area. Not sure I'd want it infested with screaming people anyway. But damn that's a huge swing. I didn't even think one could climb it when I was there, let alone swing off it. Anyone see the human slingshot that they have at the end of that video, too? WTF?


yea, thats the one right off of wallstreet and a short hike from the campground. There is some easy stuff to climb to the top a bit past the arch itself, more of a scramble than a hike with bolts you could clip into if you felt the need.
H..
From Washingtonville NY
Joined Apr 9, 2012
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Feb 3, 2013
leading the first pitch
Spencer Daniels
From Sandy,utah
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Feb 6, 2013
CoR
This has just been closed to commercial guides. This is not BLM land but state land (SITLA).
sltrib.com/sltrib/news/5575045...
rging
From Salt Lake City, Ut
Joined Jul 18, 2011
181 points
Feb 6, 2013
H.. wrote:
pretty sure that article says that commercial use was shut down. no more permits granted to businesses to do it because it would put some liability on the state. Didn't read anything about private parties not being allowed to go do it...taking their lives into their own hands.


On Jan. 17, the School and Institutional Trust Lands Administration (SITLA) informed an outfitter that it could no longer take paying clients to the arch, which remains open to private parties interested in climbing, rappelling and even swinging.

Says specifically that it's still open for private parties. So the people using this argument as a victory for their views that it's a stupid thing to do, are stupid.
Greg Pouliot
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