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Wing Ding 

YDS: 5.10c French: 6b Ewbanks: 20 UIAA: VII ZA: 20 British: E2 5b

   
Type:  TR, 1 pitch, 50'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a [details]
FA: Sandy Cox, Steve Zich, John Sage, 1989
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Submitted By: Ben Schneider on Jan 1, 2001

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  • Description 

    Start about 15 feet right of "What If You're Not" and climb up the little flake to the steep face with pockets to the top. This description kinda sucks without a good photo. Sorry.

    Protection 

    Since the bolts were removed from this climb, it is now a TR. Bring some 10 foot slings, and some cams ranging from #0.5-2.5 Friend.

    Eds. this climb now sports 5 bolts.


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    By Tony B
    From: Around Boulder, CO
    Sep 9, 2002
    rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a R

    It is not necessarily at TR. The first 10' of climbing is easy. 15' off of the deck is the "5.10c" crux, which felt like 5.10a, or maybe easier. It is a big move off of big jugs, but for a 5.10 climber seemed like low risk. Above that you can count on more 5.8 with the occasional large cam in a pocket. It can be lead trad without death-risking consequences.

    It does seem silly that someone "unbolted" this route.
    By Una Bonger
    Dec 19, 2003

    This route was bolted in 1989 by Steve Zich, Jandy Cox, John Sage. They were old chums of mine from DC that were visiting Boulder when I lived there. This is a fairly insignificant wall in general and all the bolts should be removed as far as I'm concerned. It's fine for top roping.

    As I remember the crux was actually an existing boulder problem.

    I climbed up to the left of it once with a drill in tow, sat on a hook, the flake broke, and cratered about 15 feet into some rocks and branches. Six weeks in a cast. A small price for the poor judgement of an exuberent youth.

    Will Niccolls
    By Anonymous Coward
    Oct 28, 2004

    Three stars is a bit of a stretch IMNSHO.
    By Aeon Aki
    Administrator
    May 15, 2012
    rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

    This route has been bolted once again and now provides another sport lead on the Der Zerkle wall. A bit run out off the ground and up top, overall the bolted line feels contrived and often quite awkward. This was better as a TR from the What if You're Not chains.
    By Wayne
    From: Superior, CO
    Aug 17, 2012

    The anchor only has one bolt with a hanger and a second bolt with the hanger missing.
    By Tony B
    From: Around Boulder, CO
    Aug 19, 2012
    rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a R

    It's not a crime to replace a hanger and nut back onto an existing legal bolt...
    Someone could just go ahead and do it.
    By Brent Apgar
    From: Out of the Loop
    Sep 23, 2012

    As of the date listed on this post, both bolt hangers and chains are back in place at the anchors.
    By Paula C
    From: Denver, CO
    Aug 6, 2014
    rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

    Not a good lead for someone just getting into .10s. The crux is before the 1st bolt which is high off the deck, and there's a runout to the anchors, although on easy terrain. Neither is an issue if you're comfortable leading .10s.

    Must have been bolted by a tall person. I'm 5'7" and had to make a move or two past the obvious clipping stances to reach a couple of the bolts.