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I hope not to step on this site's toes, but I have created a bouldering guidebook based site similar to parts of this site. Although in some ways not as extensive in certain areas, it goes a bit further by implementing a topo creator, where anyone can draw or edit a topo to any area on the site. For an example, see Little Cottonwood's Secret Garden topo here:

Secret Garden Topo

If you want, you can add problems to this topo by signing up at the site and using the topo editor. You can also create an entirely new guide if you wish.

The guides are available for download as pdfs which are created on the fly, so any updates are immediately added to the guide. Here is LCC's:

Little Cottonwood Guide

You can also add video or photos of any listed problems and create a profile, although these functions are still in beta and will be added to significantly in the future.

Again, I hope that you guys don't see this as competition. I think the sites are different enough that they each stand alone as a resource for boulderers.

Thanks for your time and let me know what you think. Any input is much appreciated.
Sundev
Joined May 8, 2010
0 points
Aug 4, 2010
Me
Just be sure to give good problem descriptions and directions. If you don't have either leave the info out till you have it all or your guidebooks will suck as bad as dr topo's did... all of those guide books were absolute fucking garbage... good luck man and keep up the good work this has a lot of potential! Squish
From Lakewood
Joined May 19, 2009
136 points
Aug 4, 2010
Wave wall
Squish wrote:
... all of those guide books were absolute fucking garbage...


I totally resent that, The best two bouldering guides for my area are still hosted by them, even post-shutdown

Links still there

Dr Topo Guide Books

Although I can't speak for your area, the ones in my area are anything but garbage.

Also, Cool work with the site, Sundev!
Mitch Hoffman
From Fonda NY
Joined Feb 22, 2010
219 points
Aug 4, 2010
ICE PIT 2011
Lots of potential... sunder
From Alsip, Il
Joined Apr 19, 2009
844 points
Aug 4, 2010
It's really not up to me. I built the site, but I don't plan on adding most of the content. That's up to all the users. And, hopefully, if one user puts in a bad description or a problem in the wrong place on a topo, someone else will go in and change it. The power of the masses... Sundev
Joined May 8, 2010
0 points
Aug 4, 2010
Final Pitch on Birdland - 5.7 Red Rocks
Im not sure if Im simply missing something - but
where are the "guides"
I clicked on Arizona... it shows the map - but there is no content..
Do i need to start populating your db with beta?

Shiloh
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ClimbPHX.com
From Mesa AZ
Joined Jan 31, 2006
1,222 points
Aug 4, 2010
If you sign up, you can create a guide. At present I don't have any guides for Arizona. Currently, the only guides created are in Utah, Idaho, Georgia, United Kingdom and New Zealand. Countries or states with guides are shown in the dropdowns with **stars** around them.

If you watch the tutorial snippet on the main page that I just put up:

wikiboulder.com

Then you'll sort of get the concept, which is to have a tool for everyone to create or add to topos of bouldering areas, keeping up to date guides of the areas.
Sundev
Joined May 8, 2010
0 points
Aug 17, 2010
Me
Mitch Hoffman wrote:
I totally resent that, The best two bouldering guides for my area are still hosted by them, even post-shutdown Links still there Dr Topo Guide Books Although I can't speak for your area, the ones in my area are anything but garbage. Also, Cool work with the site, Sundev!


ok, i should of been more specific. out of the many guidebooks i tried to use from dr. topo (more than just two or three) for arizona, colorado, and wyoming. they were all horrible. i couldn't find problems, incorrect directions to crags/boulders, wrong road names and backwards maps. dunno about the guides for the east coast if they are that good then if i'm out on the east coast i'll def give them a use. i'm just going off of my experience of what i used for out here which were not good at all.
Squish
From Lakewood
Joined May 19, 2009
136 points
Aug 17, 2010
With WikiBoulder, if the content is wrong, then you or anyone else can go in and fix it. The changes will automatically show up on the site and in the pdf of the guide.

That's the beauty of it all.
Sundev
Joined May 8, 2010
0 points
Sep 22, 2010
Whaaaat?
Question: If I take the time to put in an area can someone come right behind me a delete it all? BackCountry
From Ogden, UT
Joined Oct 29, 2009
421 points
Sep 22, 2010
This was thought about a lot. I didn't want random crap going up and not being able to be deleted, but I also didn't want everything to be easily deletable. I also didn't want to have to approve every edit. So, on the advice of a friend, once a problem or area gets enough star ratings, then it's not deletable. Currently that number is only 3. So, if you rate 3 problems in any one area, that area can no longer be deleted and the guide that that area is in cannot be deleted. A problem does need 3 independent ratings to not be deletable, so you may want to ask a friend or two to come around and rate them as well. I can come around and duplicate your ratings on any problems to make this easier.

I hope that explains it. And, I want to say top notch work on Ogden. That must have taken a while. Thank you! Let me know if you have any suggestions after using it so much (email me). I am pretty busy with other projects right now, but want to revisit the site once I have some time.
Sundev
Joined May 8, 2010
0 points
Sep 23, 2010
I like the idea! I hope it gets more action. The descriptions on MP.com or RC.com can be crap and without a topo, it makes it impossible to find exactly what you're looking for. Thanks for starting such a cool site. Brad Caldwell
From Deep in the Jocassee Gorges
Joined May 22, 2010
1,366 points
Oct 8, 2010
Holding up a lovely BD #4
Shiloh wrote:
Im not sure if Im simply missing something - but where are the "guides" I clicked on Arizona... it shows the map - but there is no content.. Do i need to start populating your db with beta? Shiloh ClimbPHX.com


WikiSpray should have been the site name.

Nice idea though hope it works out for ya. I might post up some NC stuff at a later date.
George Heib
Joined Sep 27, 2010
51 points
Oct 8, 2010
smoke break, pitch 5 or 6 (or 7??) of Dark Shadows
Wow, it's about time. Great idea.

Does this mean I don't have to see boulder problems as the "featured route from your favorites" on MP anymore?
Eric Krantz
From Black Hills
Joined Feb 21, 2004
469 points


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