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May 25, 2012
Can you climb without a car, and still have hope for a job?

Lets say we run out of petroleum tomorrow, or just that I don't feel like paying for insurance and gas anymore. If you could go anywhere in the world, and not need to depend on a car to go climbing, what are the options?

To make it even more difficult, I'm an architect, so small towns are really difficult to find jobs in.

I've never been to Boulder, but I understand a lot of the climbing is really close.
Paris is really cool, and a lot of Font is an easy trainride away.
I visited Austin recently, and loved how close the greenbelt was, even if it wasn't great, and I don't think there is anything else that close either.
I saw a lot of rock travelling around Switzerland, it seems like you could get around on their train system to the rocks....

Oh, gyms don't count.
Joined Feb 14, 2012
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May 25, 2012
I manage to get out often enough (a few days a week) without owning a car. Crags here are close, but not within waking distance. My climbing partners have cars, so unless I want to solo, transportation isn't a problem. I just try to chip in for gas and such.

I think that unless you lived near an extraordinarily concentrated climbing area (such as Terrebonne, OR), the climbing within waking distance would get old pretty quickly.

From Butte, MT
Joined Oct 20, 2011
187 points
May 25, 2012
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Do you know how to ride a horse? Best solution for when we run out of oil. Christopher M.
From Campton, NH
Joined Nov 19, 2010
10 points
May 25, 2012
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Flagstaff would be a good place to be a car-less climber. Plenty of rock within easy biking distance.

NYC has plenty of terrible bouldering in the city, and public transit to the Gunks, I believe.
From Vandalia, Appalachia
Joined Jun 27, 2006
1,369 points
May 25, 2012
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You could live and work in Monterrey and take public transportation to the Huasteca and Potrero Chico. Ed Wright
Joined May 14, 2006
332 points
May 25, 2012
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Don't worry, we won't run out oil anytime soon...

After we invade Iran we'll have enough for the entirety of our lifetime
Jeremy Hand
Joined Feb 24, 2012
109 points
May 25, 2012
Squamish is the best place I've seen for a ton of climbing within walking distance of a town. Not a big city, though. Maybe someday there will be passenger train service up the Sea to Sky corridor from Van.

Cape Town has a lot of rock in and around the city.
From Seattle, WA
Joined Jun 9, 2008
36 points
May 25, 2012
I have biked to several climbing areas in Boise a few times. It is doable, but I would be very sad if the local climbing was my only option.

I took a bus to most of the climbing in Rio, but again, the better climbing requires a car.
Chris Re
From Boise, ID
Joined Apr 8, 2003
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May 25, 2012
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You climb with a car? That must be one heavy haul must be ripped! Will Copeland
From Driggs
Joined Aug 18, 2009
92 points
May 25, 2012
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Fontainebleau is difficult to do without a vehicle. While the city itself is easy to get to, the individual bouldering locales are hard to get to without some transport.

There are LOTS of places in Spain which are relatively easy to do sans car. You could do pretty well by basing yourself in Barcelona.
Joined Aug 9, 2010
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May 25, 2012
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The Rimrocks here in Billings are literally the closest I've ever been to a crag... extremely close to town. Nick Stayner
From Billings, MT
Joined Mar 6, 2006
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May 25, 2012
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I believe Phoenix AZ, has a number of crags within the PHX/Metro area that are probably accessable via public transportation. Or just offer up a some cash for gas, and the use of your rope & rack. If this isnt enough to persuede a partner into driving a couple cold beers (or a hot meal) should do it. If none of this works, then said partner is probably not interested in climbing with you. Good luck.
Robbie Mackley
From Tucson, AZ
Joined May 6, 2010
90 points
May 25, 2012
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dylanfllr wrote:
Lets say we run out of petroleum tomorrow,

This would be a disaster for climbing as we know it. No more nylon. In other words, no ropes, no slings, no harnesses, no helmets, no more rubber for shoes.

Hoard your gear..
the end is near....
Darren in Vegas
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 13, 2006
2,223 points
May 25, 2012
Austin, Texas. Plenty of limestone climbing in the center of town. Other limestone cliffs a long bike ride or short hitchhike. Granite domes -- plenty of slab and cracks 90 minutes by hitchhike. E Wydeven
From Austin, TX
Joined Aug 24, 2010
17 points
May 25, 2012
+1 for not wanting to pay for gas and insurance anymore!

I've been without a car for half a year now and still climbing. Needless to say those fun little solo outings have stopped, but if you're willing to be flexible you can still get out. I've taken a bus before but usually just ride with partners and pay for gas. A bike is a great option if you live within reasonable(subjective) biking distance to a crag. I've seen apartment rentals within very close range of popular climbing areas, but I'm sure the rent is pretty pricey. I guess since you're an architect your best bet is living in a city and networking with other climbers/outdoor enthusiasts to find rides.
Simon Thompson
From New Paltz, NY
Joined Apr 7, 2011
920 points
May 25, 2012
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Live and work in Golden, CO and walk to the Golden Cliffs. And the new light rail going to downtown Denver will be finished next spring. Princess Mia
From Vail
Joined May 22, 2006
428 points
May 25, 2012
I should clarify, I'm more interested in knowing if there is anywhere where you can get away with not having to ride in a car every time and still being able to climb on decent rock. I know that there will always be more available to you with a car, but I like the romantic idea of biking from work to the crag, or maybe hopping on a short train.

I know a lot of Font isn't accessible, but I was able to take an easy train down to Bas Cuvier.

I'd love to hear more about Barcelona.

Austin was nice, but hot. I've definitely thought about it.
Joined Feb 14, 2012
3 points
May 25, 2012
Geneva...there's a bus to Chamonix and you can get to a ton of other climbing locales in Switzerland very easily by train. Tom Fralich
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined Nov 12, 2006
62 points
May 25, 2012
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Rio de Janeiro and Innsbruck come to mind. Ryan Williams
From London (sort of)
Joined May 10, 2009
1,468 points
May 25, 2012
Can you all elaborate at all? Or know of good starts to looking up those places? I'm sitting here in Seattle looking over my computer at the mountains and not getting any work done, so I figured I could be constructive with my wasted time.

If only they'd have a fast train to leavenworth, smith, and squamish....
Joined Feb 14, 2012
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May 25, 2012
Yes, it's gotta be Squamish. Smoke Bluffs Municipal park is right downtown and has over 500 climbs. You could live on Hospital Hill and literally walk across the street into the park. The Chief provincial park is a 20 minute walk and has classic multi-pitch, bouldering and aid-climbing.

Squamish has a population of around 18K and is one of the fastest growing cities in the province. Whistler is just up the road with all kinds of construction happening. There is also public transit in town.

If you need to live in a bigger city, Vancouver, with a population of around 3 million is beautiful. There are (private charter) buses leaving Vancouver for Squamish and Whistler every two hours.

If you're an architect check out the Squamish Adventure Centre a new building next the the Smoke Bluffs - quite cool.

For more info on the climbing in squamish visit
Squamish Climber
Joined Jan 21, 2009
12 points
May 28, 2012
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Train / bus / cable car gets you pretty far in Switzerland.

Car not needed for access to lots of limestone cragging, 20+ pitch alpine adventures, cresciano granite boulders, and everything in between. "Long approach" means more than 30 min walking...
Dan Flynn
From MA
Joined May 5, 2009
4,416 points
May 28, 2012
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The key to climbing without your own car is to know someone that has one. I know this. Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Joined Jan 1, 2001
1,538 points
May 28, 2012
Maybe no one has mentioned it because Boulder is kind of a cliche, but Boulder is by far the best place I can think of for access to lots of high quality climbing without a car. All of Eldo, the Flatirons, lower Boulder Canyon, plus tons of great bouldering are relatively short bike/bus rides away. Charles Vernon
From Tucson, AZ
Joined Jan 1, 2001
2,921 points
May 28, 2012
If you want to take a climbing vacation I would say Krabi, Thailand or Halong Bay, Vietnam. Ticket there is expensive, but once you're there everything else is dirt cheap. I can't speak from personal experience for Halong, but I went to Railay (where you climb in Krabi) last December and it is awesome. You can rent a private bungalow for 10 bucks a night, there hundreds of quality routes on these gorgeous limestone walls right on the beach. Best part, from your bungalow you can walk to it all, get pad thai from a boat on the beach, then go out to a bar afterwards. There aren't roads, you have to take a boat to get there. Oh, and there is deep water soloing.

The minimum wage there is not so good... so I wouldn't suggest moving there and getting a job. But you can live on very little for a long while.
From Golden, CO
Joined Nov 17, 2011
0 points
May 28, 2012
squamish ... bearbreeder
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