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When do you start training?

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IronMan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 65

At what stage in a climbing career does one start training?

I've been climbing for around 4 months.

How would I train if I can only actually climb or go to the gym 1 day a week?
Is there a certain grade that you start training at?
Should I train?

To those of you who also have limited time at the rock, how do you stay in shape/train?

Matt N · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 415

More information:
Boulders V7

Sport: 5.12b

4 months? We should be asking you how to train, not the other way around.

Mike Lane · · AnCapistan · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 880

Training gives you an unfair advantage over those who don't. So just as we as a society are striving to reduce everything the lowest common denominator and spread the fairness around, neither should you do any training.

Mike Belu · · Chicago, IL · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 135

^^^ very funny.

sanz · · Pisgah Forest, NC · Joined Nov 2011 · Points: 210

So you've been climbing once a week for four months, or in other words, you've climbed 16 times, and you climb 12b/V7?

If that's actually the case, you are an extreme outlier and have a very, very high baseline

Anyone who climbs at that level is ready to start seriously training. In fact, I don't think I've ever met someone who climbs at that level and hasn't already been training for some time.

Anyway, get a copy of the Self-Coached Climber. Inside you'll find all you need to know.

Monomaniac · · Morrison, CO · Joined Oct 2006 · Points: 17,295
I used to always tell people that a reasonably fit person ought to be able to work up to redpointing 5.12a sport routes just by focusing on movement skills and climbing regularly (2-3 times per week), and therefore, that was about the point one might consider following a structured training program. In retrospect, I think I said that simply because that is what I did. With hindsight, I think I would have been better off as a performance rock climber had I started training earlier. The two years or so I spent getting from 5.11- to 5.12- included three major finger injuries and lots of frustration. I’m confident I could have avoided those injuries, and likely progressed further, faster, had I followed a structured training program.

Considering the above, why not start training immediately? There are at least three standard reasons often cited...


Read the rest here: lazyhclimbingclub.wordpress…
IronMan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 65

I think I need to clear up some things.

In August, I was climbing 2-3 times a week.

for the last 2.5 weeks, I was doing a 2 days on, 1 day off cycle.

Generally, because of school, I am able to climb around once a week.

During the week, I run every day for Track, and I go to the weight room M-W-F.

@Mono, thanks for the link to the site.

James Otey · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2007 · Points: 785

Muscles get stronger significantly faster than connective tissue- aka tendons. Stay away from pockets and super small crimps like the plague for 6 months.

Pay now save later. Or make the same mistakes me and monomaniac made and set back your climbing career significantly.

Franck Vee · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 260

That's an interesting question.

I don't think that before now I ever really did a sustained, disciplined training regiment. I mean we'd do chain-up pyramids at times after climbing and have random fits of "training", but outside a structured long-term plan I now see this was mostly for entertainment, not really for full climbing value. Now I onsight 11+ redpoint 12-, and I've started doing one because I think to really keep progressive that's what I have to do. I think that unless you have a very good body for climbing, this is likely to be the case for you as well. I've been 5'7" and around 140 lbs pretty much since I became a fully-grown adult, so I'm probably not bad for climbing physiology. Of course there's more than just BMI - tendons strenght, muscles profiles and just general physical activity history also plays a role.

So the short answer, I think would be when you start working on 5.12.

It kind of depends why you climb though - I'm willing to push my climbing further and I'd like to climb 13 eventually. I'm not sure I can really get there without training. But one could also just say "well, I can hand-dog up to 12+, meaning I can find something good to climb at most crags and get my draws back". Then why train? Just keep climbing and nevermind the plateau. You may still improve slightly still.... 

I don't really see the point of training in a systematic manner before you can regularly onsight (or redpoint within 2-3 attempts) around 5.10+. I mean if you're not solid at 5.10, I think the gains to be had in technics are just greater than the physical strength you'll get from training. I think every able-bodied person can solidly climb 5.10 from a physical perspective. The reason why not everyone does that is because climbing has a long technical learning curve.

mediocre · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 0

You start training because you decide this is something you want to get better at. Not because of the grade you climb at. 

WTFkind of question is that? Are you in junior high?

Franck Vee · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 260
mediocre wrote:

You start training because you decide this is something you want to get better at. Not because of the grade you climb at. 

WTFkind of question is that? Are you in junior high?

A somewhat less nuanced and more simplistic view of it!

Mark Says · · Basalt, CO · Joined Jul 2017 · Points: 395

Josh Gates · · Wilmington, DE · Joined Mar 2017 · Points: 4

With the age of this thread, I'm assuming our 4 month/V7 OP is now in isolation for some World Cup event, so it'll take some time to respond.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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