What's the deal with P90X for climbing?
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I understand that "P90X" is a somewhat generic term that covers a number of exercise programs aimed at general fitness. I also have heard there are climbing specific workouts/programs that are offered. Is anyone familiar with the specifics that could summarize it for me, or point me toward some specific information? |
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I believe Steve Edwards was one of the folks involved in crafting the program, and he's a long-time climber and on Mtn Proj. Maybe shoot him an email. |
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I did P90x last year. I wanted a little boost to look more cut in my abdominal area. It certainly delivers results if you stick with it. |
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If you can get a copy of DPM (Dead Point Magizine) it's a free climbing magazine, I get it at my gym. You could also go to the web site at dpmclimbing.com. The newest issue for March/April is the training issue. It has a really good article written by Steve Edwards where he lays out a P90X style program for climbing. Hope that helps. |
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I'm on round two of the P90X 90 day workout program. I definitely toned up several body parts during the first 90 days. But, my climbing went to hell during the program. I think my muscles were so fatigued from the workouts that I had nothing left for climbing. |
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By the time I finished my first round of P90X, bouldering to my max was fun. All the pull-ups are great prep. |
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Mike, |
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Mike Anderson wrote:I understand that "P90X" is a somewhat generic term that covers a number of exercise programs aimed at general fitness.Check out Steve's blog. He's in SLC. You guys would get a kick out of each other...! |
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Mike: |
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I would suggest the TRX Trainer... Core yes, body weight movement (like climbing) yes, easy to transport yes, plus you can use it outside. I love the TRX and they even have extensions to the original for climbers called the talon grip so you can even improve your grip strength with various different finger combos. I really enjoy mine and have even taken a workshop provided by TRX. |
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Dustin Roth wrote:I would suggest the TRX Trainer...TRX is neat but as you said, very expensive. I built mine for very cheap. What I used: 8" of PVC pipe and some tape for handles. THIS for the adjustable straps. and I can put it anywhere. I think my total cost for $4 since I got the straps on sale. |
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JLP wrote: I'm confused. So this program hurts your climbing? How about some actual nuts and bolts here? What is the diet? What exercises? Thus far, I'm thinking this is yet another in a long line of bullshit get-fit-loose-weight-fast-for-lots-of-money programs.the real p90x is actually a really great, all inclusive workout program and diet. Its fantastic for overall, general fitness. If you are completely out of shape, and still want to climb, doing p90x will most certainly only help you climb better. I think if you are already a seasoned climber, and in good CLIMBING shape, then p90x might just make you gain muscle where you don't need it for climbing, thus possibly hurting your climbing. Plus, as someone mentioned before, p90x has a LOT of workout time every week. You could burn out if you try and climb a lot and do p90x at the same time. |
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I sub the pull days/excercises with my climbing. The diet is great and cardio is great....definitely get your hands on the latest DPM or go to their website to view the latest issue. Theres a great article on using the basis of the p90x, muscle confusion, and applying it to climbing specific workouts. |
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JLP wrote: I'm confused. So this program hurts your climbing?Ding! Ding! Ding! |
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RockinOut wrote:Theres a great article on using the basis of the p90x...What is great about it, and how did you determine it's greatness? |
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A dozen posts or so and we're still waiting for some specifics. Is this like the Gym Jones cult where you have to take a vow of secrecy or something? |
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Brian in SLC wrote: Check out Steve's blog...As a means of communicating large quantities of complex information I find blogs to be unsatisfactory...somewhere between Twitter and Fox News. I have been to Steve's blog and didn't find any general or summary information...just the flavor of the month type of stuff you get on every blog which is about as useful as watching one and only one episode of Lost. |
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Mike Anderson wrote: What is great about it, and how did you determine it's greatness?http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?referral=mypagesuite&pnum=&refresh=Ds51j60HFr70&EID=c140cbec-8f13-4bf6-abcb-27ebe860743d&skip= Its great because it gives you climbing workout based around the p90x. The p90x has never hurt my climbing. But like i said I sub some workouts for actual climbing....hae you ever attempted the p90x workout? |
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if you are extremely fat and live on a desert island with no climbing, the P90X MIGHT help your climbing just by getting you into decent shape. if you already climb at a decent level, the P90X will probably do very little to help your climbing. if you are a pretty good climber and spend your training time actually doing something to help your climbing, adding the P90X will probably hurt your climbing by killing your recovery time and leading to overtraining injury. |
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This guy uses P90X: |
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I've read the article. I think his recommendations at the end are pretty spot on, but there aren't any specifics. It's easy to make the right recommendations when you don't give specifics, but still, I'll give credit where it's due. On the other hand, I disagree with some of his analysis in the early part of the article. |