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Aug 8, 2011
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Things must have changed since I moved north a decade ago, or maybe I just have a bad memory...

My recollection was that there wasn't much 5.13/5.14 climbing near Boulder.

Of course indoors you can do routes that hard, if that counts. And at Rifle there are a ton, but that is quite a ways.

Certainly there are lots of good climbers in Boulder, but if you really just wanted to climb hard, you would probably just move to Rifle or Bend or maybe even SLC, no?

The attraction of Boulder is more than just the hard climbing.
richard magill
Joined Jan 1, 2001
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Aug 8, 2011
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CPJ wrote:
I'm from VA and looking to make the move out west as well. I'm finishing up a graduate degree in Mechanical Engineering at Virginia Tech. How are the engineering job prospects in the Boulder area. I climb, ski, and mountain bike and am attracted to the Boulder area because of the outdoor activies but I would like to have some solid job leads before making the jump.


I'm doing my PhD in ME here at CU. There are tons of national lab jobs (NREL, NCAR, NIST, NOAA), techy jobs (Sun Microsystems, IBM), defense/aerospace jobs (Lockheed Martin, Ball Aerospace, Northrop Grumman), and also a lot of small energy start ups. What was your research? I might be able to point you in the right direction. You can PM me if you want.
Berkeley
From Boulder, CO
Joined Feb 2, 2006
11 points
Aug 8, 2011
"I don't care what kind of single-source low-carbon Guatemalan indigenous insulation product you use, a 6,000 square foot house isn't earth friendly".
I love it! That goes right to the point.

Boulder is a great place to live for access to climbing.
The weather is OK, though hot and somewhat humid in the summer.
Infrastructure is nice. Biking lanes are nice.
Food scene is OK but getting very expensive and snobbish.

BUT:
Don't believe the hype about this being a hippie town.
It may once have been but no more. It's a city of pretentious, overly rich, self-absorbed, self-congratulatory outdoorsy people who drive BMWs and large brand-new SUVs and live in $1M houses. It feels no different to me culture-wise than any other super-affluent exclusive place in the US. Bottomline: I'll stay for the climbing but the vibe in this town is way too money-oriented for my taste.
Eric and Lucie
From Boulder, CO
Joined Oct 14, 2004
153 points
Aug 8, 2011
Thailand
Eric and Lucie wrote:
" Boulder is a great place to live for access to climbing. The weather is OK, though hot and somewhat humid in the summer. Infrastructure is nice.

The weather is really good with tons of sun. I don't think its ever humid here. The summers are more of a dry heat to me during the day.
Mitch Watkins
From Denver, CO
Joined Jun 2, 2011
6 points
Aug 8, 2011
The most miserable person in Boulder is a fat person without a cause... James Crump
Joined Dec 17, 2008
200 points
Aug 8, 2011
Just change "everyone climbs 5.14" to "everyone (and their mom) climbs 5.6". 5.6 is the most crowded grade in Boulder. 5.14 climbers only go to 2 "crags", Rifle and Movement (a gym), so they won't be bothering you.

Definitely expensive, definitely crowded. Easy to avoid crowds if you try though. People are pretty nice. Most people here are not from Boulder. It's easier to find a climbing partner from Boone, NC in Boulder, CO than it is in Boone itself.

- A Recent NC Transplant
Ben Sachs
Joined Oct 11, 2008
748 points
Aug 8, 2011
Things that I like:
-Exceptionally good routes/bouldering, a good variety of climbing styles with granite and sandstone to choose from. Plenty of areas to get away from crowds if your not lazy as balls. Very easily accessible from town.
-Overall nice place, relatively clean, not over-crowded (but growing quickly), good views of mountains all over town.
-Usually cool people, but a decent share of fucks as well (as with any place)
-Medical Marijuana industry probably more prosperous here than anywhere else in the country right now, if you like weed, if you dislike weed that could be a negative.
-Probably one of the best public transit systems in the US.
-Can find climbing partners very easily.
-4 gyms I think
-You don't actually need a car, they are a convenience
-Many more...

Some things that kind of suck:
-Overall unaffordable real estate (much cheaper in surronding areas such as Louisville and Longmont)
-Some annoying-ass people, mainly boulderers telling eachother to "come on" and the like, gym climbers, rich fuckers that drive crazy.
-Moderately grating drunk ass college students (easily avoidable)
-Becoming more crowded
-Gym climbers
-Everything becoming more expensive (everywhere though)
-Don't go to Whole Foods

Haha
Helldorado
From Boulder, CO
Joined Feb 8, 2006
38 points
Aug 8, 2011
Mitch Watkins wrote:
The weather is really good with tons of sun. I don't think its ever humid here. The summers are more of a dry heat to me during the day.


Come north to Wyoming, you'll feel the difference. I notice the humidity every time I go south.

Its not August-in-Georgia bad, but its noticeable, and I try to avoid climbing near Boulder (more than usual, I mean) in the summer because of it.
Brian Scoggins
From Boise, ID
Joined Mar 12, 2002
1,074 points
Aug 8, 2011
Mitch Watkins wrote:
The weather is really good with tons of sun. I don't think its ever humid here. The summers are more of a dry heat to me during the day.

I lived in the Santa Fe, NM area for a long time; let me tell you: it is considerably hotter and more humid in Boulder than Santa Fe. It also rains more. Just look at the vegetation...
Eric and Lucie
From Boulder, CO
Joined Oct 14, 2004
153 points
Aug 8, 2011
"This definitely beats lying in a pile of saw...
Mike McHugh wrote:
......* If it seems like most people in Boulder drive/talk/act like they're from Minnesota, New York, California, or Texas, it's because they are. * NIST has redefined the millisecond as the interval between when the light turns green and when people start beeping their horns. Especially true in that cluster near Whole Foods. * A lot of people with $500 highlights in their hair can recite very intricate Tibetan Buddhist prayers. No disrespect to either coiffure or sutras, it's just interesting to see....... .


HaHa +1
Ben Walburn
Joined Jul 13, 2007
581 points
Aug 9, 2011
Me doing my Jits thing (what I do when not climbin...
Living Close to Boulder is great. the only time traffic is really bad is during rush hour in which it's usually like that in all decent sized cities though. Plus, there's plenty of 'scenery' around to make you hate having gotten married. if you already are that is. haha! JitsClimber
From Broomfield,Co
Joined Mar 9, 2011
17 points
Aug 9, 2011
Boulder. Pfffffft. Pete Elliott
From Co Spgs CO
Joined Jul 28, 2006
42 points
Aug 9, 2011
If you live in Boulder you will be surronded by obese people. I suggest Fort Collins. I always invite my fat friends from Boulder to come to climb with me.
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Terry Parker
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined May 11, 2006
3 points
Aug 9, 2011
Mashers Tower
Lauren Trojan wrote:
everyone climbs 5.14


with all due respect, who cares what everyone or anyone else climbs?

also, boulder is closed. no vacancy.

unless you are a girl.

and hot.

or at least cute and sweet.
Cornelius Jefferson
Joined Apr 5, 2006
162 points
Aug 9, 2011
I think The People's Republic gets WAY more hype for being a "climbing town" than it deserves. If I was after rock climbing first, I can think of probably a dozen towns I'd choose before Boulder. If I was after culture and quality of life first, again at least a dozen towns I would put ahead. Combo of the two, again at least 6-8, probably more. YMMV. Will S
From Joshua Tree
Joined Nov 15, 2006
1,219 points
Aug 9, 2011
Mountain Bike Action!
Earlier I made an unsupported statement regarding the price of housing in Boulder. So I looked it up and found these 2009 numbers, which might still be relatively accurate:

Mean prices in 2009: All housing units: $516,076; Detached houses: $629,893; Estimated median house or condo value in 2009: $477,700

source: city-data.com/city/Boulder-Col...

Pretty pricey, I think...
richard magill
Joined Jan 1, 2001
2,678 points
Aug 9, 2011
Young Good Free Face, 11b
Will S wrote:
If I was after rock climbing first, I can think of probably a dozen towns I'd choose before Boulder.


Which towns?
Why would you find them a better climbing town than Boulder?

Where else could I pull (outside) after work every day? Even if it's raining or snowing thanks to the Roof Routes!

Not that I doubt other cities offer this; but c'mon, name drop already.
J. Broussard
From CordryCorner
Joined Feb 21, 2011
112 points
Aug 9, 2011
coppolillo wrote:
the horror stories of $800,000 homes are overblown. the average price of a house pre-bust was up in the 400s...but that has come down substantially. if you're interested in talking to the best realtor in town, contact Tim Goodacre, 303/817.9300 and he'll give you a great idea of what's out there in the less expensive neighborhoods (where i live). a buddy of mine (who DOES IN FACT climb 5.14, woh!) just flipped a house around the block: gorgeous, about 2000 sq ft, and it was going for less than 6. and it is BRAND NEW.


You admit that you live in a "less expensive" neighborhood, and yet a buddy around the corner from you just sold a 2000sq ft house for "less than 6"...which I'm guessing means somewhere between $550-600k. Sure, it's not $800k, but to most people $600k is still way too much. I recently bought a pretty nice 3200sq ft house in a decent neighborhood in Fort Collins for $290k. It's not hard to find houses in the "less expensive" neighborhoods for less than $200k. That seems like a pretty huge price difference to me...
Ian Stewart
Joined May 17, 2010
166 points
Aug 9, 2011
Top of Bridalveil, feelin good
richard magill wrote:
Earlier I made an unsupported statement regarding the price of housing in Boulder. So I looked it up and found these 2009 numbers, which might still be relatively accurate: Mean prices in 2009: All housing units: $516,076; Detached houses: $629,893; Estimated median house or condo value in 2009: $477,700 source: city-data.com/city/Boulder-Col... Pretty pricey, I think...


OUCH!!
erik wellborn
From manitou springs
Joined Apr 3, 2008
360 points
Aug 9, 2011
Thailand
Jeffeos wrote:
Which towns? Why would you find them a better climbing town than Boulder? Where else could I pull (outside) after work every day? Even if it's raining or snowing thanks to the Roof Routes! Not that I doubt other cities offer this; but c'mon, name drop already.



+1. Id also be curious to here others ideas about the best climbing towns. Especially the best climbing towns that are close to large cities (ie. Boulder-Denver).
Mitch Watkins
From Denver, CO
Joined Jun 2, 2011
6 points
Aug 10, 2011
So people have been asking a lot of questions about Boulder on this website recently. My question is how many people are born in boulder? How many people are climbers that were born in boulder? I am just curious because I am a republic baby and I have only meet a handful of people who share the same birthplace. mtoensing
From Boulder
Joined Feb 25, 2006
826 points
Aug 10, 2011
Ian Stewart wrote:
You admit that you live in a "less expensive" neighborhood, and yet a buddy around the corner from you just sold a 2000sq ft house for "less than 6"...which I'm guessing means somewhere between $550-600k. Sure, it's not $800k, but to most people $600k is still way too much. I recently bought a pretty nice 3200sq ft house in a decent neighborhood in Fort Collins for $290k. It's not hard to find houses in the "less expensive" neighborhoods for less than $200k. That seems like a pretty huge price difference to me...


and JLP has the good word. 70% of homes in Vegas are upside down on the their mortgages. it would take a global catastrophe for that to happen in boulder...yeah, it's pricier here than fort collins...but it's no $800K as was stated previously.
coppolillo
Joined Sep 9, 2009
53 points
Aug 10, 2011
exactly four people in the history of the universe have been born in boulder. coppolillo
Joined Sep 9, 2009
53 points
Aug 10, 2011
Young Good Free Face, 11b
Matt Toensing wrote:
How many people are climbers that were born in boulder? I am just curious because I am a republic baby and I have only meet a handful of people who share the same birthplace.


Here's one!
It wasn't until my early twenties that I switched from a focus in mountain biking to climbing however. I used to be so proud of all of our challenging riding; and now I'm stoked to be into a sport that is even more convenient to enjoy.
J. Broussard
From CordryCorner
Joined Feb 21, 2011
112 points
Aug 10, 2011
all the talk of the "expense" in boulder...and people are buying 3200 square foot homes...perhaps the problem is appetite and not the cost of the food.....make do with a bit less and live the good life. bike-commute instead of the car, live in a smaller home, and cut back on some consumption...that's a good way to afford to live in a nicer city, IMHO....Lauren, come visit a bunch of places on the Front Range...tons of nice spots and see where you dig.... coppolillo
Joined Sep 9, 2009
53 points


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