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Feb 11, 2013
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There's no guidebook to dirtbagging, but here's a ...
There's no guidebook to dirtbagging, but here's a few hints from The Climbing Zine.
Luke Mehall
From Durango, Colorado
Joined May 12, 2009
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Feb 12, 2013
route photo
someone's on the second pitch of Cathedral Peak! Great route Brent Butcher
Joined Nov 18, 2010
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Feb 12, 2013
OTL
First tip - photocopy the topo, don't bring the whole book. Oh wait, a dirtbag won't have a job with access to a copier. Get out the paper and pencil. Matt N
From Santa Barbara, CA
Joined Oct 20, 2010
345 points
Feb 12, 2013
the man was smart
first we have the master climber promoting his blog and now this? does mtn proj need a "promote your blog " forum so these guys can all promote their blogs to each other?

I thought the blog seemed like it was written by someone who hasnt dirtbagged long enough to tell others about it yet.
T Roper
From VA,NM,UT,CT,MA
Joined Mar 31, 2006
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Feb 12, 2013
Colombian Crack
I agree, and I think it's pretty obvious to not dirtbag your rope and cams. I was thinking this post would have hints on how to make a meal out of a gas station snack bar, or where to poach a place to sleep. Telling me to shop at a thrift store for climbing clothes?? I just wear the same clothes I usually wear - jeans and a t shirt. Then I don't have to buy any clothes at all.

I will say though, if you get way off route or if you're route is crowded when you get to the base, having the whole book with you can be helpful. That book isn't all that heavy. Not nearly as heavy as the Freedom of the Hills, which I brought in our haul bag up the Washington column for our first aid climb ever (!). Needless to say, we learned a lot that trip, and it wasn't because of what we read in the book...
Maurice Chaunders
Joined Sep 21, 2010
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Feb 12, 2013
mike seaman wrote:
I was thinking this post would have hints on how to make a meal out of a gas station snack bar, or where to poach a place to sleep.


This. Not the gas station snack bar part...since that's usually way more expensive than just buying food from a grocery store...but finding a free place to sleep is, in my opinion, the first step to dirtbagging.
Ian Stewart
Joined May 17, 2010
166 points
Feb 12, 2013
Bocan
TRmasta wrote:
does mtn proj need a "promote your blog " forum so these guys can all promote their blogs to each other?.


Funny part is that the blogs and even magazines are not only following up on, but quoting MP threads nowadays.

We'll have a convo about some topic and next month it's in R&I as a featured article.
Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Joined Feb 15, 2006
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Feb 12, 2013
ive been taking whippers on a 100$ rope for the last few months ... obviously im gonna die ;) bearbreeder
Joined Mar 1, 2009
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Feb 12, 2013
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after...
I can't for the life of me figure out why climbers are figuring out how to carry around bags of dirt. It's been abundant pretty much everywhere I have gone. Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Joined Jul 30, 2011
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Feb 12, 2013
The internet is likely the worst place to learn how to "dirtbag."

Also, that cam that I found in Zion at the base of that wall buried in dirt holds falls like a champ...
Bud Martin
From Bozeman, MT
Joined Apr 15, 2010
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Feb 12, 2013
El Chorro
$10 for a pair of belay gloves? I thought the dirtbag thing to do would be to not have belay gloves at all. Do you know how many servings of pasta you can buy w/ ten bucks?!!

Although, if you just sold your laptop you could buy belay gloves AND lots of pasta - the good kind!
Ryan Williams
From London (sort of)
Joined May 10, 2009
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Feb 12, 2013
Everyone knows there's a huge pile of gloves at the base of the cables on Half Dome...who the fukk is this guy?! Rob Dillon
Joined Mar 22, 2002
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Feb 12, 2013
Epic free solo with a pack on
the real key with "dirtbagging" is to find things that help you forget, or just learn how to forget how uncomfortable or cold or hungry you are...

If it's good for morale, do it!
Ben Brotelho
From Albany, NY
Joined May 4, 2011
700 points
Feb 12, 2013
Do aid and big wall climbers wear gardening gloves? You get what you pay for. I've watched a rope burn through cheap leather in a day. chuffnugget
From Bolder, CO
Joined Sep 14, 2011
22 points
Feb 12, 2013
Skull cave, Rifle, CO  awesome shot nate!
this guy dont know.

free belay gloves are hiding at any major crag across the country

new(to you) trad gear is left in cracks all over the country ready to be added to your rack. all you need is a little ingenuity and a lot of free time

you have 2 options with ropes, find a rich kid who thinks UIAA fall count means thats the max amt of lead falls the rope can take(don't dis-spell the myth, tell him your gonna make a rug out of it)offer him a hemp necklace or something for it

option two is to find the rattiest rope you can find. Most of your climbing partners will offer up there own rope for use. Bonus points if its in fact two short ropes knotted together, when you explain to your new partner that they'll have to go indirect while you pass the knot they are liable to leave the crag and buy a rope.

ps this negates the need of a rope bag... unless you want it to double as your home! rope tarp/rain fly. True dirt bags don't own vehicles(that run at least)

but seriously dirtbagging is relative, to a doctor on a week long trip cooking on a coleman sleeping in a tent and camping at land of arches or rock ranch is dirtbagging.
to a college drop out hitchhiking across the country with nothing but an ounce of weed and a bag of reeses pieces while wearing nothing but pajama pants is dirtbagging(ps yea im referring to you ninja turtle pajama pants guy)
to each his/her own
ptrgeorge
From Houston, TX
Joined Sep 18, 2011
746 points
Feb 12, 2013
Agree that the author seems to need a bit more time "dirt-bagging" to understand wtf he's talking about. A very vanilla take on a wild and dirty world.

I guess I don't understand what's meant by "dirtbag:"

Does it mean someone who is:

1. deliberately under-employed, with lots of family money (secret income) who has learned how to stretch the checks from mom as far as possible?
2. acting poor to make a fashion statement?
3. a greasy hustler doing whatever it takes to just get to tomorrow morning, with no family, no trust fund, no nothing?

I'm not sure,but there has been nothing glamorous or cool about some of the hardcore D-bagging I've witnessed (stealing, filth, infections, jailtime, hard drugs, etc.)

Love the idea of the "promote your blog" forum, hilarious!

That said, I did enjoy some of the author's other writing.
Randy Slavin
Joined Aug 17, 2005
34 points
Feb 12, 2013
the man was smart
Rob Dillon wrote:
Everyone knows there's a huge pile of gloves at the base of the cables on Half Dome...who the fukk is this guy?!


dont forget the half eaten pizza slices in all the garbage cans all around the deli
T Roper
From VA,NM,UT,CT,MA
Joined Mar 31, 2006
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Feb 12, 2013
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I use my gardener's work gloves for belaying. Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Joined Jul 23, 2010
130 points
Feb 13, 2013
Jumping across the mace gap with a PBR
There should be a dirtbag couch surfing system on mp. Just write in where you want to climb/travel and people who want climbing partners or are just nice enough to let you stay can respond! Buy your host a six-pack and share some stories. Robbie Brown
From Flagstaff, AZ
Joined Apr 1, 2012
359 points
Feb 13, 2013
Colombian Crack
I make my gardener belay me Maurice Chaunders
Joined Sep 21, 2010
11 points
Feb 13, 2013
In my dirt bag days, the only electronics item I owned was a disc man. No cell phone, mp3 player, computer, or digital camera. I had a pair of carharts that I wore pretty much every day for a couple of years. I ate tons of pasta, rice, beans, potatoes, cheese, peanut butter and jelly, and cheap soup.

My strategy was to work 60-70 hour weeks (I work in health care) for 6 weeks or so, living with my parents (for free) and then hit the road for 2 months or until the money ran out. Repeat. I shared alot of campsites, camped on BLM land for free, crashed on friends floors, and my favorite, lived in an igloo on forest service land for a few months. Those years were some of my favorite in my life so far, I had no money, and few possessions, but I saw more beautiful sunsets and felt more connected to the outdoors than ever before or since.

I think the most helpful things for dirt bagging are the mindset and ability to do things on the cheap, dedication to get out there and climb, and the willingness to work hard and long for your freedom. My time working back to back 60 hour weeks sucked, but it was worth it once I got back in the woods.

I agree that the article is pretty uninformative and vague, and I never needed belay gloves.
John D
Joined Nov 24, 2010
21 points
Feb 13, 2013
There should be an article written about what the term 'dirtbag' actually is, defined by the Urban Dictionary...my guess is that Dirtbagging wouldn't seem so cool &/ or trendy...but, who knows, maybe it would make it more 'popular'... zenetopia
Joined Jul 18, 2012
29 points
Feb 13, 2013
Imaginate
The Larry wrote:
Nate, yer confusing the word dirt bag with douche bag.


+1. Nate stop ripping off REI.
David Appelhans
From Medford, MA
Joined Nov 11, 2007
350 points
Feb 13, 2013
That chick aint no dirtbag Matt Franklin
Joined Sep 7, 2011
129 points
Feb 14, 2013
Valor Over Discretion (5.8), RRG
David Appelhans wrote:
+1. Nate stop ripping off REI.

It's not REI that gets ripped off. They simply pass on the extra cost to the rest of us.
Brian Hudson
From Lenoir, NC
Joined Dec 10, 2010
112 points
Feb 14, 2013
Brian Hudson wrote:
It's not REI that gets ripped off. They simply pass on the extra cost to the rest of us.


Do you actaully know the percentage of stuff that gets returned to REI? I'll give you a hint, it's south of 5%.
NorCalNomad
From San Francisco
Joined Oct 6, 2011
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