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Type: Sport, TR, 1 pitch, 60 feet
Consensus: 5.7 [details]
FA: Fred Knapp and Sharon Sadleir Vaughan
Submitted By: Ben Mottinger on Jan 1, 2001

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Description 

This is a great beginner sport route on the left end of the rock. Climb huge huecos up the steep face. TR access is from the left end of the rock.


Protection 

4 bolts to a 2 bolt anchor. 10 feet of slings will make it easier on your rope.



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Todd in jugland ...

Todd in jugland ...

Katie getting her lead on...

Katie getting her lead on...

Photo by Ryan of Matt. What If You're Not?_5.7. 4-30-2008. Nice crag for casual after-work climbing. We had a great time.

Photo by Ryan of Matt. What If You're Not?_5.7. 4-...

Not what ? Hot!!! C-tina smiles after the ascent!!

Not what ? Hot!!! C-tina smiles after the ascent!!

Jules walkin' up huecos!

Jules walkin' up huecos!

Roman's first visit to the Flatirons for climbing!

Roman's first visit to the Flatirons for climbing!

Well done!!! Julie Mearckle enjoys the steep stuff!

Well done!!! Julie Mearckle enjoys the steep stuff...


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By Guy H.
From: Fort Collins CO
Aug 28, 2001

The hangers on the top of this route seem to appear and disappear. Just a heads up if you are leading this climb.

By Joe McManus
Oct 1, 2001

Fun easy lead, the toughest part is the first 10 feet. If you set it up as a TR just watch for the tons of poison ivy all around the back of the anchor area.

By Sharon Sadleir Vaughan
May 9, 2002

The 5.7 leader might want to consider this a serious route, as we didn't put in many bolts. Not really a true "sport" climb. It is a fun jug haul if you don't mind the runout. Also, sorry for the spinner bolt anchor. It was the first (only?) bolt I ever drilled.

By Joe Keyser
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Jul 1, 2002

For a bolted route, I felt this was done nicely. Nothing hard about it, but, it is really fun! HUGE jugs up a slightly overhanging face. Two bolts at the anchor, both seemed just fine, easy walk off. Other good climbs at this crag as well... The east face of Der [Zerkle] is closed, but, the climbs on this side are still open.

By Leo Paik
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From: Westminster, Colorado
Jul 25, 2002

You can make this not s-rated by adding a #4 Camalot placed at a diagonal between the 1st and 2nd bolt. A very good route!

By George Bell
From: Boulder, CO
Oct 5, 2003

There are currently a pair of yellow tape X's at the top of this route, apparently indicating some new bolts are to be placed? This is a fun route, reminiscent of indoor jug hauls. Four bolts are not a lot, but it still felt pretty safe.

By shad O'Neel
Oct 26, 2003

If this is the grade you lead, I'm sure this route will provide extreme satisfaction and a sense of accomplishment, The ground could become reality clipping bolt 2. However, this seems to be one of the most fun 5.7s ever. The bolts are very well placed, and the climbing is giggly all the way to the top. The balancy crux somes early on, then just pure fun.

By Anonymous Coward
Sep 1, 2004

Fred Knapp is my hero.

By David A. Turner
Sep 16, 2004

The anchor on this route has been replaced with modern lowering bolts, and has been moved so there is no longer any rope drag over the edge.

By nick moeckel
Jul 26, 2007

A really fun route, delicate for 5.7 right off the bat and then a steep jug-haul to the top. Heading up the east face and then hitting this on your way back is a good time.

By Matt Schaning
From: Boulder, CO
Jul 28, 2008

Beware of the hornet nest 1 foot to the right of the anchors!

By Ben Burnett
Nov 7, 2009
rating: 5.7

I wouldn't say "beginning sport lead" given the fall potential if you're unfamiliar with leading. Bring a few cams and it might be a good for a beginner Mixed leader though.

By slim
Aug 4, 2011
rating: 5.7

Probably not a good choice for a beginner to lead. Groundfall potential going to 2nd bolt, fairly steep and would be pumpy for a 5.7 climber. Fun route, though.