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By dosboy
From Denver, CO
Mar 28, 2014
yay drama and bickering!!!!!!!!

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By Matt N
From Santa Barbara, CA
Mar 28, 2014
OTL
Senior Hernandez wrote:
And you seem to be a drama queen from the universe of attention suck. We get it, you love to show off your body while climbing so people look, that way you can get even more attention when you complain. Nice.


Perhaps I'm not the only one who has been assuming that D.Buffum was female for quite a while until clicking on his profile?


I'm thinking either: we've been well devils-advocate-trolled, or he is going for empathy pu$$y. (name of my new emo band)

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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Mar 28, 2014
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.
J Q wrote:
The attention center drives behavior in everyone's life you self righteous twit. When your attention is drawn to a stimulus you take notice of that stimulus, especially if that stimulus has driven human reproductive behavior since the beginning of time.


Ah ha. JQ do you believe in a stimulus-response model for human behavior? Attention, yes, but are you:
A) So freaking stupid you still confuse attention with behavior?
or
B) So freaking stupid you just can't read what is being discussed?
I've had better and more intellectual conversations with a 2 year old. Seriously. But I like kids- they are still growing. However, tomorrow YOU will be the same freaking idiot.


Because if you insist that there is a nurture side to things, then the only possible place to go with that, would be that you could CONDITION the response to that stimulus.

Really, I don't have any other questions for you. May your relationships with women bring you all that you deserve...

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By AST
Mar 29, 2014
Everyone knows that women dress sexy (be it at the club, the gym, or to the mall) to impress *other women*. They also like it if they get male attention. But only if the guy looking is also attractive to them. If he isn't, then he's automatically a "creeper".



P. S. Tony B wins the Pontificator of the year award. My god.

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By David L
Mar 29, 2014
Things that girls say that piss me off

1. “That move is so reachy.” And yet there were three possible footholds that you could have stepped up with.
2. “I’m scared” I was scared too but I took a fall and found that it was safe. Suck it up and try it.
3. “I don’t want to lift weights because I don’t want to get man muscles.” Have fun climbing V4s the rest of your life.
4. “I can’t do a single pull up” like it’s some kind of badge of honor. Try harder. And keep trying. I can’t do a single one-arm pull up but that doesn’t keep me from trying until one day I can.

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By Kyro
Mar 29, 2014
Thought everything that could be talked about would have been after day 2. Again I underestimate the mp communities ability to talk about the same thing endlessly

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By Tothclimber
Mar 29, 2014
Hey everyone,
I'd just like to say that even though I have only been climbing for just over a year I've only seen one instance of this (a girl getting mad at a guy for staring at her ass while in yoga pants) but the thing that I have noticed is that this is typically in blind climbing with people you don't know. When I started my mentors were actually a couple and I saw advantages that the woman had over the man as well as I see advantages that my own climbing partner (my girlfriend) has over me. Men have a different assortment of advantages. Personally everything in my world is respect based as I will climb with whoever is the best or whoever people want me to. Girls are better at some routes than guys. This might be because I started off climbing with a part time female mentor or because my partner is a woman or I spend a lot of time with my mentors climbing gym coworkers (some of whom) are women. In the end everything should be experience or talent based, and if you're not comfortable with who you climb that's a bigger problem than not being able to lead.

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By Short Beta
From Troy, MI
Mar 29, 2014
Leading a 10 at Chocolate Factory
Was the title of this thread changed to "uneducated, angry people making ridiculous generalizations about the opposite sex" without me knowing?
Thank you to the people that actually posted something relevant to climbing...on a thread like this, just leave your input/opinion if it actually relates to the topic. I think that's pretty reasonable.

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By Buff Johnson
Mar 29, 2014
smiley face
so if I said all women were batshit crazy, would that fit your reasonable criteria??

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By 1rsties4life
From CO
Mar 29, 2014
I have to weigh in on this as a man who has been climbing for more than 20 years and has had many awesome female climbing partners along the way.

I have have climbed with and around many incredibly strong women. Some of my strongest and best climbing partners in the present and past have been women. These women in particular are stronger pound for pound than I am, and they tend to approach certain climb sequences more methodically than I do so I always learn something when I climb with them. So in a climbing sense I don't understand why any man would take a dominant approach to demean a woman's talent like stated in this blog post. Shame on all the men out there who do this!

With all of that said I will also share an observation I have had with many of my female climbing partners. Every woman I have climbed with has never been to me anything more than a friend and for this very reason I am about to mention, I have never dated a woman who climbs. Perhaps this is only my personal observation but it seems that every woman I have climbed with will only date or romantically get involved with men who are better climbers than most, and often times including themselves. It's human nature to want to be with someone who shares interests. However, unfortunately many men who are super talented at something have big egos, so wouldn't be best to just recognize that and avoid those guys from the start. I mean, if you shake the bees nest you will get stung. If you avoid the bees nest you won't.

So whether you are a man who just rattles off stupid comments to a woman at the crag. (Men, or should I say boys who say stupid things. Stop making the rest of us look bad.) Or if you are a woman who only dates climbers who climb hard. Just remember every action in life has a reaction so think next time what effect your action may have as a reaction back to you later. And stop blaming the other sex!

I will also ask the author of this blog, how would she would feel if a man wrote a blog about a generalized annoyance he may pole about women who climb? My guess is it would sexist!!

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By chuffnugget
From Bolder, CO
Mar 29, 2014
'Empathy pu$$y'

Lol. Take the road show to a womens' studies class and you will be 'liberating women by the minute.

Tried being the sensitive age guy in my twenties, but you get a lot less oral sex from wanna be lesbians... happy to receive but giving was' degrading.'.

Side rant: ever noticed that climbing women get an over inflated sense of desireablility because guys hit on them in gym cuz there are like 10 guys for every girl?

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By Will S
From Joshua Tree
Mar 29, 2014
David Sahalie wrote:
Side rant: ever noticed that climbing women get an over inflated sense of desireablility because guys hit on them in gym cuz there are like 10 guys for every girl?


I can one-up you: I went to an engineering university.

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By Happiegrrrl
From Gunks
Mar 29, 2014
I will also ask the author of this blog, how would she would feel if a man wrote a blog about a generalized annoyance he may pole about women who climb?

The blog post didn't include generalized annoyances. It was specific examples those women had experienced. I don't think it was even remotely intended to be considered as general statements.

I think a reciprocal story would be well worth reading.

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By marty funkhouser
Mar 29, 2014
A lot of women posting to this thread...and that includes most of the men.

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By slim
Administrator
Mar 29, 2014
tomato, tomotto, kill mike amato.
Will S wrote:
I can one-up you: I went to an engineering university.


amen.

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By Short Beta
From Troy, MI
Mar 30, 2014
Leading a 10 at Chocolate Factory
Side rant: Ever notice that yes, some girls have an over-inflated sense of desirability, but some don't and are only there to work on their climbing? Patterns exist. Women can be attention whores. Men can be sex-fiends. But you can't simply group every member of the gender under that because it's just not true.

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By Robots and Dinosaurs
Mar 30, 2014
The things people are saying on this forum makes me like the people on mountain project way less...

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By muzik311
From sedona, az
Mar 30, 2014
bends of horseshoes
A good read:

news.coreyrich.com/2014/03/sto...

The Climbing Magazine issue of 1997 turned out to be one of their best selling issues ever AND it does feature a woman wearing a bikini top on that cover. Sex sells.

  • ****But this cover—the first time a bikini-clad woman appeared on the cover of a climbing magazine—resulted in a huge response from the climbing community. The editors’ mailboxes were flooded with a glut of hand-written letters either supporting the decision, or (most) outraged by the choice.

It’s hard to really understand the context of this picture appearing on a core publication at this juncture of time. By today’s standards, there’s nothing even remotely risqué about this photograph. But back then it was a big deal. If I had to guess a reason why I’d say it was because this cover became the unlikely outlet of some of the emotions lying latent in the climbing world at the time: over the sport’s growth and transition from fringe to mainstream. *****

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By camhead
From Vandalia, Appalachia
Mar 30, 2014
You stay away from mah pig!
Michael G. wrote:
The things people are saying on this forum makes me like the people on mountain project way less...


Dude, it's pretty well established that mp has the most sexist user base on the climbernet.

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By muzik311
From sedona, az
Mar 30, 2014
bends of horseshoes
And a good read for other women other there and their struggle to find other female climbers : climbingzine.com/jugs-on-jugs/

Read some good comments posted on that page from other women climbers and there thoughts of only wanting to climb with women...Hmmmmm

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By Short Beta
From Troy, MI
Mar 30, 2014
Leading a 10 at Chocolate Factory
If someone dropped you because they thought your safety advice was sexist, then that person really sucks. As a female climber I'm simply stating that I don't see climbing as a way to get attention from guys and would like to not be grouped together with women who do...

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By iceman777
From Colorado Springs
Mar 30, 2014
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Enough
Enough

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By chuffnugget
From Bolder, CO
Mar 30, 2014
'Women can be attention whores. Men can be sex-fiends'

..and dogs can be your best friend!

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By J Q
Mar 30, 2014
Me again!
Tony B wrote:
Ah ha. JQ do you believe in a stimulus-response model for human behavior? Attention, yes, but are you: A) So freaking stupid you still confuse attention with behavior? or B) So freaking stupid you just can't read what is being discussed? I've had better and more intellectual conversations with a 2 year old. Seriously. But I like kids- they are still growing. However, tomorrow YOU will be the same freaking idiot. Because if you insist that there is a nurture side to things, then the only possible place to go with that, would be that you could CONDITION the response to that stimulus. Really, I don't have any other questions for you. May your relationships with women bring you all that you deserve...



Ouch, resorting to childish ad hominem attacks again proving that you are:


A. So stupid that the complex feedback loop created by the nature/nurture relationship is beyond your grasp.
B. So Childish that you continue to argue against things I never said because its the only way you know how to win arguments.
B. Lack capacity for reflection which is why you are so confused how attention influences behavior.
C. All of the above.

I never said you couldn't condition people, in fact, that was my whole point, that you would have to condition people to get guys to stop looking at girls climbing in yoga pants. My point was that for this girl to have her cake and eat it too half the human population would have to have their biological impulses trained out of them.

It is sad that this conversation made you resort to childish name calling and personal attacks, but hey, that's what feeble minded individuals do.

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By SinRopa
From parts unknown
Mar 30, 2014
You can do reachy moves without yoga pants. Photographic evidence attached.
not wearing yoga pants
not wearing yoga pants

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