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By Tony Monbetsu
Feb 23, 2014
Tateita Face at Ayoro Beach
Good lord, Tavis, that looks better than the commercial gyms I go to. Any estimate on total cost of materials/holds? That looks amazing and I'd pay to climb on it.

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By Tavis Ricksecker
From Bishop, ca
Feb 23, 2014
Church of the Lost and Found, Left. Summer 2013
Tony Monbetsu wrote:
Good lord, Tavis, that looks better than the commercial gyms I go to. Any estimate on total cost of materials/holds? That looks amazing and I'd pay to climb on it.


Tony, I think we've dropped about $6K or a little more. Didn't need to spend so much on framing, think we could have saved close to $1K by using smaller pieces - its primarily 2x10 on the bigger/steeper panels. The lights are LED so they don't make much heat and will never burn out but were expensive, could have saved at least $1K by getting cheaper lights. But then we were given over $2K of holds as well so I'm going to go ahead and guess that to build this a little cheaper but buying all the holds would still run $5-6K

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By TBlom
Feb 24, 2014
Tavis, that is the most professional looking wall I've seen on this site! Nice job...

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By Tavis Ricksecker
From Bishop, ca
Feb 25, 2014
Church of the Lost and Found, Left. Summer 2013
Thanks man. Idunno Greg's is pretty nice too :)

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By Steve_Sil.
From Los Angeles, CA
Feb 25, 2014
This whole thread is awesome and inspirational. Great work everyone.

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By Woodchuck ATC
Feb 25, 2014
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008
Tavis has a pretty great looking cave of fun......and well upolstered and padded too it appears.

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By Tavis Ricksecker
From Bishop, ca
Feb 28, 2014
Church of the Lost and Found, Left. Summer 2013
Woodchuck ATC wrote:
Tavis has a pretty great looking cave of fun......and well upolstered and padded too it appears.


Just regular carpet. Now there's ~8 pads and a mattress in there too. Looking into getting a custom floor from Asana but it's ~$5K so going to have to save up for a while

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By Kevin Hilgert
Mar 4, 2014
Not mine, but had to share. This was posted on the routesetters anonymous facebook page. Sick!


Sick home woody from routesetters anonymous facebook page.
Sick home woody from routesetters anonymous facebook page.

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By Jonathon Braud
From denver, co
Mar 4, 2014
Climbing at Wall Street, Moab. Pinhead Trad 5.10b
Kevin Hilgert wrote:
Not mine, but had to share. This was posted on the routesetters anonymous facebook page. Sick!


damn that is nice

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By Woodchuck ATC
Mar 4, 2014
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008
rich bastards!! that's gotta cost some pretty good change.nice set up!

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By A. Ketcham
Mar 8, 2014
8X8, pivoting wall.
8X8, pivoting wall.

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By Will Morgan
Mar 12, 2014
I finally got started building my woody this past weekend. It has taken a few weeks to just rip out old shelves / build new shelves and figure out where I was gonna put everything that use to be stored on this wall. It is still very much a work in progress and the garage is a complete disaster, but I'm close to having my own rock wall. The wall is built with 2x6's and is 10'7" tall and 15' wide. It wall also have a small vertical wall on the left side where it meets the wall. It's only 22 degrees, but thats all the space I had to work with. I originally threw around a few ideas on the design in this thread here , but I decided inorder to get the most use out of the wall to go with one large surface. I still have to be able to use my garage for working on the vehicles and projects around the house so it couldn't take up the entire garage. I had the extra wood and the studs were not completely straight so I added blocking 24" OC. This really tightened everything up. I purchased an extra sheet of 3/4 ply and I plan to make a few volumes to help keep it interesting. I bought the Atomik Great 108 starter set and it came with 3 extra holds so I'll have 111 holds to start with. I purchased 475 T-nuts so I'll add more holds as money allows.

I've got an engineering question. This should have been ask before I built the wall... Do you think the majority of the weight of this wall is pushing down on the concrete floor, pulling down from the ceiling joist above or combination? It seems like the only weight that would be put on the ceiling joist is the weight it would take to keep the wall from tipping forward. This of course doesn't take into account when someone is climbing on the wall. I may be wrong about the way the forces are being applied here. I put a spax lag scew in every ceiling joist above the wall, 11 lags total... So I'm not concerned about it ripping away from the ceiling, just curious how much down force I'm putting on the ceiling joist above.



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By BCarlson
Mar 13, 2014
Will it looks like your wall might fall down. (sarcasm alert)




Now that I got that out of the way, great job. Looks like a bit overkill, but that's definitely the way to go (I definitely over engineered my wall). It's nice not feeling the wall move as you swing around :).

Keep your eye out on atomik holds website for the deals of the day. They can put stuff up for 50% off at times, and always try to check in for factory seconds (Atomik and other hold manufacturers). 90% of the factory seconds I've bought I have trouble finding anything wrong with them (most of them are small color blemishes). Project Holds just had a deal for cosmetic blemishes (factory seconds) that were on sale for less than $5/lb. I bought 20 lbs ($100) and just went back through their web site to check prices and I ended up with well over $300 worth of holds (if they were perfect). The only downside is you never know what holds you're going to get, but it's always fun opening the box :).

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By Woodchuck ATC
Mar 13, 2014
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008
You can heel hook to the left, go through that garage side door, and enter into another climbing realm in the next room!! Go for it!!

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By Will Morgan
Mar 18, 2014
Kevin Hilgert wrote:
Not mine, but had to share. This was posted on the routesetters anonymous facebook page. Sick!


rock wall
rock wall


I wonder if this paint has any texture to it. I'm wanting to add some color to my rock wall and I keep reading that I should not use any texture because it wears out your shoes. The Atomik websites says you should use texture because it prevents the holds from sticking to the paint and ripping the paint off each time you move a hold.

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By Sr Rake
From Tucson
Mar 18, 2014
Maybe the previous owner of my wall used the wrong texture paint, because in my experience the texture layer seems to make the holds pull off more pain and or spin. The texture layer is thicker and it seems like it makes it easier to peel off the wall. And I agree that its rough on your shoes and your knuckles especially with low profile pocket holds.

These things have made me want to just use a good quality non-textured paint when I build a new indoor wall from scratch someday.

I'm open to other options if somebody has a good textured method that has worked well for them.

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By Will Morgan
Mar 18, 2014
Sr Rake wrote:
Maybe the previous owner of my wall used the wrong texture paint, because in my experience the texture layer seems to make the holds pull off more pain and or spin. The texture layer is thicker and it seems like it makes it easier to peel off the wall. And I agree that its rough on your shoes and your knuckles especially with low profile pocket holds. These things have made me want to just use a good quality non-textured paint when I build a new indoor wall from scratch someday. I'm open to other options if somebody has a good textured method that has worked well for them.



I spoke to the owner of the wall i posted above on FB and they told me they used Restore textured deck paint. Restore Paint

However, for the coverage / cost I will have to use something else. I mixed sand in regular laytex and painted some on scrap wood, but my wife and I both thought it would be really rough on your knuckles with low profile holds as you just mentioned. I used an oil based primer on my wall. I might try and oil based paint with no texture and see if it will stay on the wall after removing the holds. I've read that the oil based paints dry harder, but I'm not really sure.

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By BCarlson
Mar 18, 2014
I used an exterior latex paint and haven't had any problem with holds ripping the paint off. Some of the holds will 'stick' (bolt is loosened and the hold won't move), and a few taps with the ratchet and the hold will pop off (without any paint).

I didn't let my paint dry sufficiently (overnight for most of the panels) and was actually expecting some sticking, pleasantly surprised at how well/easily the holds come off.

Perhaps it has more to do with environment (humidity/temperature)?

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By Sr Rake
From Tucson
Mar 18, 2014
The problems with my paint coming off are probably due to improper priming and the use of a thick textured paint. It reminds me of spackle. The top coat of paint might facilitate the holds sticking too.

I wonder if a light coat of chalk or talcum powder would keep the holds from not sticking and pulling up the paint.

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By Woodchuck ATC
Mar 18, 2014
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008
Will Morgan wrote:
I wonder if this paint has any texture to it. I'm wanting to add some color to my rock wall and I keep reading that I should not use any texture because it wears out your shoes. The Atomik websites says you should use texture because it prevents the holds from sticking to the paint and ripping the paint off each time you move a hold.


Atomik is correct. the texture helps keep holds from spinning without a set screw too. I have let my wall paint dry for days, yet a tight hold sticks in place and peels off the paint anyway when I move it. Very low on boards the texture isn't needed, and the upper part where your hands will only reach is also a space you don't need the texture. I want to practice smearing, so who cares if it wears my shoes..that's what normal shoe use on rough rock will do anyway. Only down side I see on my wall is the black smeary places kinda make the artsy paintjob of the wall look crappy after a bunch of shoe black gets all over it.

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By Will Morgan
Mar 26, 2014
I finally got this wall about wrapped up. I still need to go back and caulk some seams. I'm waiting on the paint to dry for a couple more days, but I did temporarily bolt a few holds up last night to climb for a bit. My walls only 22 degrees, but its really difficult for me. I've only climbed like 7-8 times in my entire life so I am complete newb at this. Last time I climb, about 5 months ago at local gym I don't remember my hands blistering up so bad after climbing. Maybe these holds are more rough because there brand new.

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By Woodchuck ATC
Mar 29, 2014
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008
yeah, hold texture can be different from one hold maker to the next. And some purposely make dual texture holds. Older holds weather our rougher over time when left outside. My outdoor wall has some holds that have been out in weather, sun over 100 degrees and cold winter at 20 below. They are wicked rough now on hands, some so bad that fibreglass and resin particles have now surfaced that do get into the skin. I use sandpaper to 'smooth' down the oldest roughest holds to make them more hand-friendly, or else my fingers are burning after only an hour or so on the wall. Newer composite and urethane holds don't seem to do as bad as the old stuff when left out exposed to weather. If your new holds, on your indoor weather protected wall are already giving you blisters, you might as well start smoothing them a bit with sandpaper now to save the pain. See if you can order future holds with less texture to them too, or a variety of textures.

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By mcarizona
From Flag
Mar 29, 2014
Margartia?
Margartia?

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By 1694kyle
From Seattle, Washington
Mar 31, 2014
Sobrosity
In the shadow of that cave madness. Little weekend project stemming from a hangboard purchase, ha.

Campus board is bolted to the posts for angle adjustment.



Little campus area
Little campus area


hangboard side
hangboard side


"TSAAAAAAAAAAT" -Chris Sharma
"TSAAAAAAAAAAT" -Chris Sharma

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By David Nguyen
Apr 2, 2014
45 on an old swing frame.
45 on an old swing frame.

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