Way to improve ticks & user experience

Objective - Create a way for users to track their climbing (keeping track of days on rock and pitches) without cluttering up route pages with a bunch of redundant ticks from climbing the same route over and over.

Problem - Ticks are logged on the page of the route that is climbed. Ticks are also the mechanism that MP.com utilizes for users to track the pitches they've climbed and their days spent climbing, fun stuff to keep track of. If you climb a route multiple times though and want to tick each climb you wind up cluttering up the route page with all your ticks. If you don't tick it then you can't use MP.com to as effectively track all your climbing. If you have a few trade routes you climb a lot, or if you take new people out climbing frequently on a few regular routes this especially becomes a problem, as the ticks which can be a fun way to keep track of your performance become wildly divergent from your actual climbing.

Solution Ideas

1) Have two separate tick systems. A tick on a route that stays with the route page and auto cross references and loads into a users tick log, then each user have a tick log where they can record subsequent ascents without cluttering up the route page.

2) Create a climbing log for the users where people can utilized the data management of MP.com to crunch their climbing numbers that's totally devoid of the tick system (or just loads one way form the route ticks to the climbing log)

What do you guys think?

I need to add  a list of what I climbed, A tick list, yeah, thats right,  thats the ticket, a list of things i've climbed.

On the route page, you could show only the most recent tick, or the first tick, or the most-pure tick from each user.

You could make it possible to expand that to display all of the user's ticks for that route.

I would love to be able to "tick" a route that I flailed/failed on without actually showing that to the world. I imagine an option while ticking to keep that tick private.

I would also love to be able to write more extensive private notes about a route.

I think that a solution where I now have to maintain two sets of ticks is undesirable.

mollycoddled anteater wrote: On the route page, you could show only the most recent tick, or the first tick, or the most-pure tick from each user.

You could make it possible to expand that to display all of the user's ticks for that route.

I would love to be able to "tick" a route that I flailed/failed on without actually showing that to the world. I imagine an option while ticking to keep that tick private.

I would also love to be able to write more extensive private notes about a route.

I think that a solution where I now have to maintain two sets of ticks is undesirable.

Yeah, something like the first tick for OS/FL/RP,  or the most recent hangdog tick... so if you work on a route, it will show the latest hangdog tick, and when you red point it takes that as the new tick and stays with it, no matter how many times you reclimb the route later.  

And I’m with you, I’d like to write a more extendive private note, linked to the route, without having to keep a separate journal, or something. 
But I think the concern is that if you make the notes private people would be less likely to leave the public Comments? 

mollycoddled anteater wrote: On the route page, you could show only the most recent tick, or the first tick, or the most-pure tick from each user.

You could make it possible to expand that to display all of the user's ticks for that route.

I would love to be able to "tick" a route that I flailed/failed on without actually showing that to the world. I imagine an option while ticking to keep that tick private.

I would also love to be able to write more extensive private notes about a route.

I think that a solution where I now have to maintain two sets of ticks is undesirable.

Yeah, I'd be stoked for more space for you to write, as long as it is left public. I'm definitely intrigued by your little saga with the scary looking stink bug in the crack that you tell tales of in your tick list. I want more details!

Peter J wrote:

Yeah, I'd be stoked for more space for you to write, as long as it is left public. I'm definitely intrigued by your little saga with the scary looking stink bug in the crack that you tell tales of in your tick list. I want more details!

To make an example of that tick, I would have loved to share the scary stink bug story, but maybe keep the beta private.

I didn't mean to leave you hanging with the scary bug story. It was necessary to leave out some details due to the limits of the tick system.

The bug turned out to be one of these: http://www.arizonensis.org/sonoran/fieldguide/arthropoda/acanthocephala.html

But all I could really tell from my position was that it was big, had wings, and had some bits of orange on it. So I was concerned that it was a tarantula hawk, and was very unnerved. I'm not very good with flying insects in general. Even if it turned out be a less dangerous bug, I knew that if it flew at me, I would likely not handle the situation gracefully and would perhaps take a fall. At the point in the route where interactions with that bug/crack are possible, you've traversed about 10 feet past the previous (second) bolt on low angle terrain. A fall wouldn't be pleasant.

I did the traverse between the crack and the bolt several times while trying to either scare it off or get my shit together, retreating back to the safety of the bolt when I tired out.

Eventually I did get my shit together, and the bug did fly, but not into my face. That's not entirely honest. I placed a cam, hung on it, snapped a photo of the bug, and someone after that I got my shit together.

I repeated the route on top rope and laughed at how easy it was.

I'm not really sure where this sort of information might belong on Mountain Project. It probably doesn't belong here at all. Nowadays, I leave this sort of stuff, or bits of beta that I want to remember for later attempts in a private journal that I started keeping.

But I think it could be neat to be able to read more interesting stories on the pages for classic routes. The route comments tend to get pruned, so maybe that's not the place. Maybe with some work on route comments (some way of making important comments prominent and making sure that stories about bugs don't clutter the place up) that could be an option.

mollycoddled anteater wrote: On the route page, you could show only the most recent tick, or the first tick, or the most-pure tick from each user.

You could make it possible to expand that to display all of the user's ticks for that route.

I would love to be able to "tick" a route that I flailed/failed on without actually showing that to the world. I imagine an option while ticking to keep that tick private.

I would also love to be able to write more extensive private notes about a route.

I think that a solution where I now have to maintain two sets of ticks is undesirable.

Expandable drop-down menus for each individual climber AND a private tick system would be best. If we could only have one, I'd vote to have a "private" checkbox on the tick-submission form.